Well i got mine today, so heres my mini review. Im notorious for disliking dodgy gear, and have had good experiences with GeekVape gear before, so i ordered it on presale. It arrived hours ago....after nearly a month on a slow boat from China
The GeekVape AIO tank was provided by me for me to test, with my own money...because i dont do paid/free gear revues, as most vendors are too scared, and well the one recently who tried to sign me up wasnt, but i didnt sign up as i rarely buy gear, and therefore it wouldnt have been a good deal for them, even without my often scathing indictments of gear
So these impressions/thoughts are from my own troubled mind and arent influenced by anything other than that
Okay, so it took a while to get here from a presale at VapeSourcing, but its here, ive had it a few hours and im comfortable in saying i think it might get to stay
Manufacturer details here: Griffin AIO RTA | GeekVape | Best RTA /RDTA/ RDA Manufacturer
Brief details - more in link above:
Width: 25mm tank
Height: 65mm (including 10mm for the supplied driptip)
Capacity: 5ml
Airflow: Top & Bottom (both with click stops on each setting)
Juice Flow Control: Yes (ill leave out my normal rant against it - i leave it fully open and get on with life)
Refill: Top - large slots for easy filling
Decks: Interchangeable - Comes supplied with dual velocity (with a single coil plug) deck AND a dedicated single coil one - these are Decks 1 and 3 on the product page. There are a total of 4 decks that you can get for it, including a postless. 5 if the clamp style single deck from the Pharaoh (Deck 5) becomes available separately, so far the only place ive seen thats selling extra decks is VaporDNA, and they only have decks 2-4 available:
GeekVape Griffin AIO and Pharaoh RTA Decks | Vape Accessories
To be honest the extra decks arent for me as a single coilist, even the Pharoah clamp style one i probably wouldnt bother with as i prefer the screw contact method over the clamp style, but it may appeal to single coilists who use Clapton wires....
So heres my mini revue, ill always refer you to youtube for more indepth reviews than im doing
How it arrives:
Heres how the package comes from GeekVape (right hand box section opened to show contents)
Tank on left, extra dedicated single coil deck, non top airflow topcap, spare glass, spares orings and 510 driptip adapter, and wanky tool on the right
The GeekVape Griffin is a 25mm tank, which includes both traditional bottom airflow, and the top airflow that used to come as an optional extra
But thats not why i bought it because at the temps i vape, im almost certainly never going to use top airflow
I bought it because my current long term tank, the mighty Lemo 2, wasnt handling the highest VG ive ever used and winter so well, with its tiny juice slits, and the Griffin has plenty of juice flow. Plus it also comes with 2 decks...a dual velocity style deck (with a single silicone plug) and a dedicated single coil deck - thanks GeekVape for not only the single pluggable deck, but a dedicated singly...one of the few tank makers that looks out for us singlists...
Who's it for?:
From *slightly* restrictive direct lung folk like me to full on wide open cloud broz. Not one for the MTL (mouth to lung brigade), though they prolly know that from a peek at the specs
Test equipment:
As always the tank is going to be paired with and tested on the mighty TreeBox...
I had originally ordered the AIO to go with a Smok H-Priv, but i sold that last week, so i was a little but hesitant at how things would go whacking it on the TreeBox (ive never measured the top to see if it would fit). But praise the baby jezus, it fit perfectly, so that was one thing down...
Here tis and for comparison my normal Lemo 2 off to the side
Tis not a subtle tank compared to your average 22mm tank
How does it vape?:
I did abandon the bonkers chuff tip, i fricking hate cloud broz chuff tips with a passion, for the included driptip adaptor and my Lemo 2 drip tip (which it took me a year to stop loathing because its not exactly small bore either), normalcy restored....
First build:
Wire used - single coil of single 26g 316L SS
Wick used - cellucotton rayon
Decided to give the dual deck/single plugged for single a go as this is the way ive run the GeekVape Avo 22mm since the first day i got it, tried the dual deck.dual coil setup, and quickly abandoned it for dual deck/single plugged.
Built as easily as the Avo, only as opposed to the Avo 22mm's 14mm outside post to outside post deck, this thing has a 19mm build deck...and it handled my very well spaced 7 wrap 26g easily - i really space my winds out, and this is the first deck ive found where i thought "finally, some real width for my preferred (weird) spacing".
No issues trapping wires, the velocity deck allen screws width fills the post holes. Wicked with my current choice of cellucotton rayon, which i guestimated while cutting (i had a little too much length)
Note: coil was lowered after this pic was taken during testing, In pic height off airflow was about 4mm, reduced to around 2mm
Note 2: I vape unflavoured, so height adjustments for me have nothing to do with flavour chasing, more to do with vapour production and warmth.
But no worries as luck would have it, there was a bit of extra room under the posts to tuck it away in...i prolly wouldnt do this with cotton though, but for a quick test build with rayon, no worries..
At my normal temps i wasnt getting a lot of vapour, it wasnt bad by any means, just wasnt my normal vape...but with a huge chamber and using one side of a deck its not too surprising, vapor prolly getting a little cool because even with the airflow turned down to the lowest, its getting a lot of air into that big chamber...and banging around in there. Plus my normal toot duration....i estimate it was about 65-70% of the vapour of my normal vape
Second build:
Wire used - single coil of single 26g 316L SS
Wick used - cellucotton rayon
Dedicated single coil deck. This has a outside post to outside post measurement of 14mm, so we're back to the same size as an Avo 22mm's deck. But because the legs will go into the posts at at angle, i wasnt left feeling i was going backwards with my well spaced coils.
I do have a top tip for anyone using a single wire coil on this deck. Its obviously made for Clapton and coil pr0n cloud broz, as theres quite a lot of space either side of the post screws in the post holes, and in fact one post has a hole in it, while the other pole has a slot leading to the hole in it...great for Clapton folk who wont have to twist/bend/mangle one leg (or both) to get the legs in.
Rectangular hole side:
Slot Side:
As you can probably see, its not going to be straight forward whacking a single thin wire in there....
So heres how i did it, and considering im backwards at the best of times, you will prolly go exactly the opposite
I first put one leg through the hole side, then slid the other leg along the slot, got the coil centered, located the wire under the screw and locked it down, then went and got the other leg under the hole sides screw and locked it down. This time i wicked it with the tails just touching the deck and covering the juice holes....no extra wick
This was hands down better for a single coil vapists like me, are my clouds as big as in my Lemo 2? No, again, look at the size of the chamber, and the airflow and factor in the low temps i vape at, plus my normal toot duration....but better than the dual deck/single plugged setup. I estimate it was about 85-90% of the vapour of my normal vape
Wish they had of used hex screws on this deck too, but not a deck breaker, they easily torque down.
Top tip: You will want to really flush cut the coil legs on this deck.
Whats the build quality like?:
Extremely well machined, this comes apart smoother than any other tank ive owned, the threads are crazy smooth, even more of course after the advised lube with VG on threads/orings after getting, opening and or washing any tank you get. Note: the tank and therefore the juice flow spins more smoothly/easily than any other tank ive owned, so close the juice flow, then hold the glass before you unscrew the topfill to refill the tank, and also be mindful if using juice flow control...if youre into that juice flow malarkey
How does it do under TC/Whats the conductivity like?:
Solid as - the deck also hosts the 510 as one piece. Being as the decks are interchangeable, and therefore youre using a new 510 any time you swap them.
Yes, but will it leak:
Im sure if you dont wick it properly like any tank it *may* leak, i think its highly unlikely. In both builds i was using very thinned out rayon and i saw no sign of potential leaking or any gurgling etc, none. I was using about 90% VG, but Ill soon be mixing up some lower VG (around 60/40 VG/PG) in the coming weeks when i get some PG for the first time in eons, and that will be the litmus test on the leak angle.
Will you keep it?:
If im doing this review within hours of getting it and you dont see any bold rants, then its safe to say its looking like a keeper.
p.s. i like that no one pointed out to me i could have put the Lemo 2 on another TreeBox i have for the comparison pics...i only just thought of that myself, hours after the pics were taken
