How do you like your zombies?

Discussion in 'Zombie Vapers' started by erinprime, Nov 10, 2010.

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I like em...

  1. slow

  2. fast

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  1. erinprime

    erinprime Full Member

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    Argument with the husband got me wondering which zombies are popular these days so...

    How do you like your zombies... slow or fast?
     
  2. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Well, I'm a little torn between the two. Slow if I'm still alive and fast if I do in fact end up becoming one... So hopefully slow will end up the winner.
     
  3. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Slow is good :)
     
  4. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    The more I think about it, the more fast zombies seem to be just a vampire replacement. With the exception of the daylight=near instant death they're pretty similar. Transmitted through bites, super human strength/running/jumping. Maybe it's all the 'sensitive' vampire stories have forced us to to upgrade the truly un-lovable?
     
  5. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    well....vampires don't seems to degrade quite so badly either. So if you happen to find a sensitive one and get close you don't have to worry about body parts falling off. That's a plus in my book.
     
  6. Mac

    Mac Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Immobilized and strapped down to my surgical table so the experimentation may begin. All will tremble before the havoc I unleash and NONE SHALL BE SPARED!
     
  7. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm wondering if you ever saw/heard of the game ZPC (zero population count). It's an old and obscure PC game that had the tagline No flesh shall be spared! Not to be confused with the movie :D
     
  8. Mac

    Mac Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Not seen it but it sounds pretty cool.
     
  9. BillyP

    BillyP Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Good question. Why not both? Im ok with fresh zombies being fast. But if you have been dead for a while Im thinking you shouldnt be moving so fast
     
  10. CooL_SpoT

    CooL_SpoT Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    ZPC - Zero Population Count

    AND a download link!! Totally DL'ing right now!

    (Better Link, don't gotta sign up for anything: ZPC - Zero Population Count)

    EDIT: Dang, can't seem to get it to work... :( )
     
  11. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Just so people don't get their hopes up, ZPC is an OLD game sporting Doom I style graphics.
     
  12. Wilvin

    Wilvin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Slow Zombies are real zombies! The fast ones are not technically Zombies! 28 days later( they were not dead just infected the the Rage virus) Plus you could kill them without blowing their brains out, and they died on their own after awhile. The other fast zombie like movies they were usually a virus or really vampires. I can see new zombies being fast, like Dawn of the Dead (2004 remake) at the beginning of the movie the husband gets turned into one and is chasing her down the street. But I think that very soon they would slow down since they would not have blood and other fluids keeping the joints and muscles from being stiff.
     
  13. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Well, if you go by the rigor mortis methodology, they'd be 'okay' for 3 hours then slow down for twelve and then be back to 'okay' after the 3rd day. Something to do with ATP and calcium affecting the muscles and causes them to seize up. Heat speeds up the process and cold can make the muscles release all kinds of fluid and makes the meat tough. Err, that could be mis-construed if I don't explain that I know that from game hunting and not from playing with bipedal dead things :D It not only makes the meat tough but drops the weight as well so I guess it would be similar to a minor mummification after the fluid drained out ;-)

    But yes, Romero kind of played with the idea of them getting faster after time as seen in Land of the Dead but not to the point of sprinting. Running takes a certain amount of mental resources to account for variations in terrain that a damaged brain would have problems with. If you doubt that, try getting slightly intoxicated and see how well your feet remember how to run over uneven ground. I suggest you wear a helmet with a chin guard when you do though!
     
  14. Wilvin

    Wilvin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Well if I remember my Biology and anatomy classes in College right the bodies movement work kind of like Hydraulics. The fluids in the body play a part in helping the tendons and muscles work properly. I know I am over simplifying it. The Brain sends the signals to the muscles to move but if the fluids of the body are not pumping or as time goes on dried up even a zombie brain could not make the dead muscles move to well with out fluids to make that connection. So even after Rigor Mortis ends most of the blood and other fluids on the body will have pooled to the lowest part of the body, and if the lost a lot of blood before becoming a Zombie there would be less to help with bodily movement!
     
  15. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    The circulatory system is hydraulic in nature but the nervous system is electrical. Muscles only contract or relax, they cannot 'push' per se, only have an opposite muscle contract and pull it in a different direction. Now the 'normal' human body does require a certain amount of liquid to operate properly, a zombie has already shuffled loose the mortal coil so most of the conventional rules no longer apply. No one knows how the upper half of a corpse can still be ambulatory, yet they're a staple in just about every zombie movie I've seen :D

    They're dead Dave. Every zombie's dead Dave. They're all dead Dave!
    It's like asking why the radiation made some ghouls intelligent, others feral, and yet still others able to expel radiation as an attack... or grow into a tree for that matter :p BTW, I've been down with the Vault since it needed a water chip.
     
  16. lorikay13

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    I still want to know what happens if a Zombie gets bit by a Vampire...?????? Speaking of which.....here's the latest photo of my darling daughter:

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    the redhead.....of course.
     
  17. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Hmmm, an Anne Rice vampire would go down but recover eventually. I'm not sure about a Stoker but I'm guessing they'd shake it off too. A Brian Lumley vamp is a symbiotic one and the parasite doesn't like sharing it's meal (Necroscope series, worth reading!)
     
  18. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I wonder if the zombie would have anything that the vampire would want...a zombie might go for a vampire, but probably wouldn't catch it. Anne Rice vampires that are old enough can survive just about anything.

    It's great to see that your beautiful daughter is a chip off the old block...but how does a zombie have a vamp for a daughter?
     
  19. muttSRT

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    sounds like an inter-species relationship, kind of like in underworld, the vamps and wolves mixing. In this case its zombies and vamps. I would like to go on public record as saying, I am NOT prejudice, but I think the inter-species relationships should be avoided. A regular zombie will be hard enough to fight and fend off, now mix it with the attributes of a vampire or werewolf...A super zombie could be bred. And as a zombie hunter/survivalist, I dont need a race of super zombies running around.

    Can you imagine...A zombie, with the speed and strength and regeneration abilities of a vampire and with the ability to turn/transform like a werewolf? And how would you kill such a creature? silver bullets? chopping off the head? wooden stake to the heart? Combo of all 3?
     
  20. whynotvap

    whynotvap Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I think that just a zombie with normal cognitive ability would be bad enough without adding anything (else) special to it! If they get to fly/change shapes/hypnotize people while pulling off a cape as stylish... I might not fight so hard against them. It's the becoming less than human that bothers me. If I can keep my mind and live forever, sign me up! But I WILL require a demonstration first...
     

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