If they banned ecigs, would you stockpile?

[GabbyD]

Nicotine is not illegal, and making it such would hurt big tobacco so much that I cannot see it happening.

Tobacco is not illegal. Nicotine in a liquid form is not something you can lay your hands on except for our, as of yet, untested and unregulated e-liquid. Read up a bit on the subject. Google nicotine water. Look at the FDA regulation of nicotine replacement therapies like the patch and gum. None of that has anything to do with the tobacco industry. They are exempt. These other products are not. And our e-liquid won't escape scrutiny as soon as they have time to fool with it or as soon as somebody's kid swallows a gulp of e-liquid and gets hurt.

 

[cucurucho]

Sun Vaporer, you missed the very important line following that quote:
"that are classified as Schedule 7 poisons".

A device can not be classified as a Schedule 7 poison.

Edit: Here is a more detailed look at the amendment that the Premier's statement was referring to:
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/dpu/poicode.htm

 

[TropicalBob]

The long PDF on this topic from the government says the devices exist solely to deliver nicotine. They are "nicotine delivery systems" and they are banned even to use or possess.

Seems really clear. Who wants to challenge the government in court?

 

[cucurucho]

TB. Are you referring to www.tga.gov.au/ndpsc/record/rr200810.pdf ?

That document does not contain any changes in legislation. Only recommendations to do so.

Whether our beloved vaporisers are considered a 'device' or a 'nicotine delivery system' makes no difference. Read the laws. The only thing that is banned is nicotine (pure, or in a preparation) that is for human use, not in tobacco and not approved NRT.

 

[ZambucaLu]

But I think there's a glitch there....because they can also deliver no-nic....so they do have another use.

It just so much reminds me of headshop paraphernalia. Everyone knows what they are used for....illegal drug delivery...but the fact that they can be used for plain tobacco then gives them another use....and they can be bought legally.

So it would seem...just as you better not be caught with a pipe with pot in it....you better not be caught with an ecig device with nic in it.

Lu

 

[Zebra]

How about an e-cig with pot juice in it? LOL!!! Geez. if they ban the nic liquid, we might have to resort to that!!!!!!

So it would seem...just as you better not be caught with a pipe with pot in it....you better not be caught with an ecig device with nic in it.

Lu

 

[karenwest1961]

I stockpile anyway. I do believe that the government will get their hands on this eventually...and I'm prepared for the next shipment of e-goodies to get stopped at customs. I got a good supply of juice. I'm stockpiling more of my favorite e-cigs now.

One thing's for sure...I won't be without if I can help it.

 

[e-pipeman]

I stockpile anyway. I do believe that the government will get their hands on this eventually...and I'm prepared for the next shipment of e-goodies to get stopped at customs. I got a good supply of juice. I'm stockpiling more of my favorite e-cigs now.

One thing's for sure...I won't be without if I can help it.

That's interesting, Karen. Am I right in thinking that e-liquid will last up to two years in storage? Just received some spare usb passthroughs today which are going straight into a drawer for future use. If the worst comes to the worst they'd be hard pressed to stop us vaping glycerine with a touch of LorAnns.

 

[PeteMcArthur]

That's interesting, Karen. Am I right in thinking that e-liquid will last up to two years in storage? Just received some spare usb passthroughs today which are going straight into a drawer for future use. If the worst comes to the worst they'd be hard pressed to stop us vaping glycerine with a touch of LorAnns.

I think two years has been quoted, how this is actually worked out, I don't know. I stockpile and panic buy I'm afraid, got at least a years worth of liquid and atomisers, the new liquid I buy goes to the back of the queue.

The screwdriver is the weapon of choice should they start getting nasty, they can't ban the batteries and should anything go wrong with it, I can fix it myself.

 

[b00stzx3]

Customs?! You can get pretty much anything you want into the country, Customs or not. Unless they start training nicotine sniffing dogs.

 

[Alain59]

Hell , i am new to e smoking and sure as hell will not let the government stop me ! So yes i would stockpile and find anyway to get my stuff ! Time for the Damn Government to Stop Taking away are RIGHTS !!

 

[D_Struct]

I am to the point where I think, if word comes down the pipe that Uncle Sam is about to step in and halt shipments and sale of ecigs and liquid, I would take a large chunk out of my savings and load up on 50 ml bottles and as many atomizers as I could find.

I can always build more mod setups in place of the batteries! Unless they plan on banning flashlights, soldering irons and digicam batteries, I should be fine. lol

I can't go back to analogs. It's just not in the cards.

 

[Alain59]

I am to the point where I think, if word comes down the pipe that Uncle Sam is about to step in and halt shipments and sale of ecigs and liquid, I would take a large chunk out of my savings and load up on 50 ml bottles and as many atomizers as I could find.

I can always build more mod setups in place of the batteries! Unless they plan on banning flashlights, soldering irons and digicam batteries, I should be fine. lol

I can't go back to analogs. It's just not in the cards.

The way Governments are acting these days who knows maybe they will outlaw flashlights or if caught in the possession of the above mentioned articles your passable to time in Jail .......

Where do the stupidities end with the government , or should i say when will we put an end to letting these fools dictate are lives ???

 

[ritalee76]

I don't know anything about an impending ban..

However, my current collection could be considered (by some judgemental people who don't know what the hell they are talking about) a stockpile



Rita

 

[SilverEagleBW]

Would i stockpile?

Does a fat baby fart?

 

[ejfan1977]

I would try to get as much as I could get my hands on!

 

[The Wiz]

I guess I could say I already have a stockpile....but if banned,life would have to on without e-cigs...even though I would miss it! The Wiz!

 

[e-pipeman]

Stockpile? That's the same as an interesting selection of liquids and equipment, right?

 

[devonschmoker]

I would have to suggest keeping ALL of your dead parts including atomizers. Remember anything can be rebuilt with enough determination.
(Now the next part is a worst case scenario) I think that you might be able to get carts through in a ban situation if they were completely unloaded (without even stuffing) and marked as simply “Mouthpieces” or possibly we could get the factories to send “build your own” kit for the new models that are released. All that would be needed is the final assembly. As far as liquid with nicotine goes I think that it there would be a serious black market for it. And heaven forbid nothing can get through and all available parts are reused to their fullest extent and there is no fluid containing nicotine available at all. I would sadly return to my Eclipse Analogs. (Hell, if we all pushed RJ Reynolds hard enough they might re-release Premier with a better taste, possibly even using the same flavoring as the tobacco like e-fluids) OR (here is a bit better one it is also more likely to be the case if a ban is passed) they may end up disappearing for a bit and reemerge as just a PVD with out nicotine fluid but you may be able to get nicotine containing fluid by way of a prescription. (A black market will fallow as with any prescription medication.) End scenarios.
I hope that it never comes to that. I think that our biggest weapon against the ban may end up being coming from a rather odd group, the slightly nicotine friendly Antis. (Yes there is plenty of them out there too.) As I say when I am posting in one of the “Doom and Gloom threads” Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. -Devon

 

[Zebra]

Yep, we have illegal drugs flowing like water in the USA, but let's focus on something REALLY important.....like banning nicotine juice. Leave those ...... dealers alone, for crying out loud!