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IS vaping bad for you

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  1. ncofficer4you

    ncofficer4you Full Member

    Nov 15, 2010
    I was vaping today and a friend told me that vaping is really bad for you. I asked him why do u think it is bad for you? He said all the thing in the juice u are vaping u dont really know what u are vaping.

    I do not beleave him and would like to get some info. on this if anyone has some good links I can read to prove to him that it is not bad for you.

  2. Springbird

    Springbird Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2010
    I'm not sure anyone really knows. I do know that since I stopped smoking I stopped getting daily headaches, stopped coughing all day and half the night, and my sinuses cleared up. For me it is a much better alternative to smoking.
  3. cskent

    cskent Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 24, 2010
    There aren't long term studies on the effects of vaping since it's only been around for about 5 years. But there are long term studies on smoking which prove it is bad for you. Which would you rather do? Smoke something that's proven to kill you, or vape something that has a slight possibility of causing harm? I'll take my chances with vaping. Plus it's a lot more pleasant and less costly.
  4. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    The argument your friend makes about us not knowing what is in the juice falls flat on those of us who make our own juice. Some of the commercially prepared juice contains some scary sounding chemical names (as do a lot of the items in your pantry), but if you actually look those chemical names up, you'll find nearly all of them are food flavoriings.

    Consider this: All of the substances found in normal eLiquid is found in commercially available tobacco products. But, smoking tobacco releases thousands of chemicals NOT found in eLiquid. And many of those chemicals are toxic. Which presents the greater hazard?

    After ten months smoke free I will tell you there is no doubt that I AM healthier. I can breathe again. That's kinda important, ya know?
  5. WomanOfHeart

    WomanOfHeart Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2010
    I know exactly what goes into my juice and it's NOT any of the following:

    From Quit Smoking Support

    Ammonia: Household cleaner
    Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
    Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
    Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
    Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
    Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
    Cadmium: Used in batteries
    Cyanide: Deadly poison
    DDT: A banned insecticide
    Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
    Lead: Poisonous in high doses
    Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
    Methoprene: Insecticide
    Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
    Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
    Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
    Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
    Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element

    Your friend is ignorant. The next time he wants to say anything about how bad vaping is, have him look up the FULL list of ingredients used in cigarettes and have him compare it to the list of ingredients in e-juice. Then ask him which one is really bad for you. Oh, and you might want to point out that smoking contains Carbon Monoxide, which decreases the amount of oxygen that your red blood cells can carry. Vapor does not contain this, so people who vape will have better skin tone and their gums will be pinker.
  6. vivictus

    vivictus Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2010
    Hmm, thinking about food flavorings and whatnot now... What if, 10 years down the road, people who vaped a lot of red juices get their lungs examined and they are dyed red? That might throw up a couple warning signs to a doctor who might think it was a bunch of blood. :p
  7. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    Yeah, I object to the use of food coloring in eLiquid. I mean, how pointless is that?! IMO, the industry needs to eliminate coloring completely. I know not all of them do it. But, it's also obvious that some of them do.
  8. WomanOfHeart

    WomanOfHeart Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2010
    Doubtful. Blood looks very different from red dye and the vapor produced isn't colored. Besides, the flavorings used are also in many of the things we eat and drink. They might change the color of what is processed out of your body, but rarely does that ever raise a red flag.
  9. Lisa B

    Lisa B Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2010
    Central City, Colorado
    I think I will take my chances with pg that is used in inhalers for people with breathing problems, vg that is used in all kinds of skin care and health products and some food flavorings that we all use all the time anyway. Nicotine is no more harmful then caffeine and I am not giving up my coffee or pepsi. Cigarettes that are full of stuff we all KNOW will kill us. Hmmmm I will enjoy my eGo without fear of the unknown.
  10. HyOnLyph

    HyOnLyph Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2010
    Orange County, CA
    There are studies on using PG or VG as a vaporizer. Sorry I don't have the link right now. I hope someone else can provide it. If I remember correctly, Propylene Glycol is used for inhilation therapy to dispense meciations into the lungs of COPD patients and other lung issues. I think the question about the ejuice is what the effects of vaporized flavorings have on us. I tend to think, that the more natural flavorings might be easier on the lungs overall. But since "smelling" is a process of inhaling vaporized food particles... I'm not really worried about it.

    My gosh, when I eat a Halls Lemon MentholEucalyptus drop I get much more flavor and menthol vapor particles than I do when vaping. (As a matter of fact, I've been looking for the perfect Halls Lemon ejuice.)

    I hope someone can provide that link to the PG/VG studies.

    One thing though.... since the eJuice is not regulated, you have no idea what someone is putting in the juice. I'm much more confident in DIY juice and a few trusted suppliers. And we really don't know what is in the nicotine juice. Of course, since our decaf coffee has formaldehyde in it, and Nutrasweet decomposes to arsenic ... well.... we can't trust the FDA to do anything but take bribes from lobbyists... (heavy sigh)
  11. kevbow

    kevbow Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 27, 2009
    This is how I look at it. I can either smoke, which I know is bad for me and will put me in an early grave. Or I can vape, and to be honest there is really no guarantee that it is 100% safe, but only time will tell and I also know that I feel much healthier since I quit smoking started vaping. So I'll take the chance and vape :).
  12. KissMint

    KissMint Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 16, 2010
    I don't think vaping is 100% safe, but it is better than 100% poisonous like cigarettes.

    For a nonsmoker, both are bad... obviously.
  13. Cindra

    Cindra Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2010
    South Carolina
    Breathing in vapors over tar has to be better for you and for a true addict, don't seem to matter how sick the analog is making you, you are still gonna smoke it. So to me this seems to be a great alternative. I am sure it is not 100% safe, but to be hones I can't think of ANYTHING that is 100% safe, can you?
  14. sbphotog

    sbphotog Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 17, 2009
    I don't believe anything is 100% safe anymore. not even the air we breathe or the rain that falls from the sky......

    vaping is probably not 100% safe but I strongly feel it's safer than smoking.
  15. benman

    benman Full Member

    Nov 6, 2010
    I agree, I don't think you're going to find anything 100% safe. BUT I've only been vaping for a little over a week, and I already feel better.
  16. mastiffmom

    mastiffmom Moved On

    Nov 13, 2010
    Which works best for e-cigs? Male it female? Or does it make a differance?
  17. moosehead

    moosehead Moved On

    Nov 20, 2010
    New Jersey
    Vaping is bad for you if you vape roach juice....
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