Agreed. I have had my VTR a couple weeks now and I love it! Had a Vamo before it and although great too, just didn't turn out to be as durable as I needed. The VTR offers a great vaping experience and is stout as a brick! I have dropped it a couple times already and all I have is a few scuffs on the mirror-like finish. I like the tank that came with it, but faithfully using a Protank3. I swap tanks now to avoid mixing of juices and whatnot, and it requires less frequent cleaning when I use dedicated tanks like that.. Anyways, I got my setup from a local shop for 109, I didn't need a charger since I already had one, so that would have been another 20 bucks. Since I had originally figured about 100 dollars more for my purchase, I had money left over for some more juices and extra batteries! Now I have 2 batteries and don't need to carry around my Vamo or any other "backup" device. Battery use is pretty good. I get about 3 days use of a battery and I'm just a step under a chain vaper. Lol! I vape at 9.0 to 10w on the pro3 2.0 ohm, depending on my PG/VG mix. Most of my liquids are 70/30 Vg/pg but have a couple that are 100% vg.