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Letter from senator Dianne Feinstein

Discussion in 'FDA Regulations' started by Mr. Anderson, Jul 22, 2014.

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  1. Mr. Anderson

    Mr. Anderson Full Member Verified Member

    I wrote my senator a little while back about the proposed FDA regulations.
    I'm not really sure what to think of it so I figured I ought to post it here. I believe I wrote to her during one of the calls to action, and just got a reply yesterday.
    Here is her reply:

    Dear Alexander:

    Thank you for contacting me to express your views about electronic cigarettes. I appreciate the time you took to write and welcome this opportunity to respond.

    As you know, electronic cigarettes, or "e-cigarettes," typically contain liquid nicotine which is vaporized and inhaled by the user. I recognize that these devices have become popular in recent years and that some individuals have been able to use them successfully as smoking cessation aids.

    While I am a strong supporter of smoking cessation aids, I believe it is important that consumers have accurate information about their safety and effectiveness. Nicotine is a highly addictive and dangerous drug, and some public health groups have expressed concern that e-cigarettes may be marketed to children and other vulnerable populations as a "safe" alternative to traditional cigarettes. In addition, there is a lack of research about the effectiveness of electronic cigarettes as smoking cessation aids and about the safety of these products, some of which have been found to contain traces of toxic chemicals. Courts have ruled that e-cigarette manufacturers must submit evidence of a product's safety and effectiveness in controlling cigarette cravings before advertising an e-cigarette for this purpose.

    On April 24, 2014, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced proposed rules to regulate electronic cigarettes. These regulations would restrict sales of e-cigarettes and related products to adults at least 18 years of age, and would require a health warning to be displayed on all products. Additionally, e-cigarette manufacturers would be required to register with the FDA. Any new products would be subject to FDA testing and approval before being marketed for sale. The FDA must consider public comments on the draft rule before it is finalized.

    Again, thank you for writing. If you have additional questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841 or visit my website at Best regards.

    Sincerely yours,

    Dianne Feinstein
    United States Senator

    Further information about my position on issues of concern to California and the nation are available at my website, And please visit my YouTube, Facebook and Twitter for more ways to communicate with me.
  2. nomore stinkies

    nomore stinkies Gee, Who did that? ECF Veteran

    Feb 23, 2014
    And from the honorable Richard Durbin of Illinois. At what cost?

    Thank you for contacting me regarding electronic cigarettes. I appreciate hearing from you.
    In April 2014, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) outlined its proposal to regulate electronic cigarettes as tobacco products. Consistent with current tobacco regulation, electronic cigarette manufacturers would be required to register product and ingredient listings and only assert marketing claims of reduced risk if they are scientifically confirmed by the FDA. Additionally, minimum age and identification restrictions would be placed on the sale of these products.
    Recent FDA studies have found significant quality control issues with electronic cigarettes such as the presence of carcinogens and toxic chemicals, variations in the doses of nicotine in each inhalation, and the presence of nicotine in products claiming to be nicotine-free. Despite the lack of evaluation on the effects of these products, their popularity and user base continue to grow, especially amongst teenagers.
    According to a study released by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), about 21 percent of adults who smoked traditional cigarettes had also tried electronic cigarettes in 2011, a number that doubled since the previous year. From 2011 to 2012 the total number of middle school and high school aged children that had tried electronic cigarettes also doubled.
    I will keep your views in mind as I work with my colleagues and the FDA to ensure the safe and responsible advailability of electronic cigarettes.
    Thank you again for contacting me. Please feel free to stay in touch.
    Richard J. Durbin
    United States Senator
  3. AaronY

    AaronY Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Santa Monica
    It is sad that our "representatives" are so ignorant [​IMG]
  4. Marc411

    Marc411 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 17, 2014
    Windy City
    It's a damn shame they don't practice what they preach. They would be better served to research the truth instead of just trying to ban them based on mis-information and lies.

    Then do something intelligent and make it illegal for anyone under the age of 18 and let adults make their own decisions. Common sense is something the Dem's have lost over the years and I don't think the Repub's will let anything get through the house.

    The odd thing, I have yet to see a teenager or younger using a PV. Plenty with smokes, but hell those are illegal to anyone under 18 so I must have been hallucinating.
  5. mountaingal

    mountaingal Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Call to Action!
    Free to Vape organization has on their site a form to fill out so the FDA and your state reps will get either printed copies or faxes of a form stating YOUR position on e-cigs.
    Let's all get going on this.
    Link is;
    Free to Vape - Take Action
  6. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 16, 2010
    Man... I was Thinking the EXACT Same thing when I read that.
  7. roosterado

    roosterado Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 9, 2014
    willmar MN
    I think these 2 examples are just against Electronic Cigarettes in General and cites studies{ CDC etc] as there reason. Its an easy way out ,an easy answer to send to those who write them in favor of Electronic Cigarettes. There minds were made up long ago and it had more to do with getting re=elected then any concern for smokers or Electronic cigarette users or young adults. Electronic cigarette users are a very small minority of the voting population and politicians don't think the numbers can sway an election. That is why I believe we need SAFATA and Vista Truth [ Vista Truth has an Individual Membership Level now] to hire professional Washington Lobbyists to fight for our rights. Big Tobacco and Big Pharm have Very highly paid lobbying firms on their payroll to push for restrictions thus allowing them to control the nicotine market whether it be cigarettes or Electronic Cigarettes or NRT products..
  8. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 16, 2010
    BTW - It is Kinda Sad that these Senator Staffers only have One Form Letter to reply to people about e-Cigarettes.
  9. EBates

    EBates Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2013
    Obviously our elected representatives are far too busy pandering to their campaign contributors wishes to even personalize their form letter to fully show their distaste for dealing with us proletariat trash.
  10. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 4, 2010
    I received the same form mail from Feinstein today too. So did DC.
    Time to flood her with more truths.
  11. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    Ingredients in the Nicorette QuickMist Spray (FDA Approved):
    - 1mg Nicotine (per spray) to be used up to 64 times a day (64mg)
    - Propylene glycol
    - Anhydrous ethanol ( pure alcohol)
    - Trometamol (Pain Reliever)
    - Poloxamer 407 (Degreaser - Cleaning Solution)
    - Glycerol
    - Sodium hydrogen carbonate (Antacid)
    - Levomenthol (Menthol - anaesthetic)
    - Mint flavour
    - Cooling flavour
    - Sucralose (Low Calorie Sweetener)
    - Acesulfame potassium (Low Calorie Artificial Sweetener)
    - Hydrochloric acid - (They approved this for consumption ?)
    - Purified water

    Ingredients in Vaping products (E-liquid):
    (you would have to use 3.5ml of 18mg eliquid daily to equal the dose of the FDA approved Nicorette QuickMist Spray)
    - Propylene Glycol - UPS Rated (Same as above)
    - Vegetable Glycerin - USP Rated (Glycerol is what Nicorette lists)
    - Nicotine (Or 0mg Nicotine if you prefer) (Same as above)
    - Mint flavor (or the flavor of your choice)

    Which is healthier?
    (notice the amount of nicotine allowed on Nicorette and the directions allow for dual use with cigarettes)

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    That's our tax dollars at work.
    (I probably should have started a new thread for this. It just made me so mad)

    We need to get NON-smokers writting in too.
  12. noel18

    noel18 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 24, 2014
    Parkton, MD USA
    With the politicians it's all about control. They want to control our every move. They talk about toxic ingredients in ecigs yet they allow GMOs and toxic ingredients in the food we eat. The reason they allow toxic ingredients in foods is because the FDA and the government is controlled by large companies like Monsanto. Ecigs will soon be tightly regulated and manufactured by large corporations that give the most money to the politicians unless we vote and get the right people in Washington. But I'm not sure there are enough freedom loving politicians out there to turn the tide.
  13. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 23, 2011
    Boston MA
    Really pathetic when you can read so obviously between the "cut and paste" lines. Paragraph from this FDA statement..., paragraph from that CDC statement... Any place else that would be called plagiarism. In government we call it "representation." :facepalm: (Talk about talking heads...)
  14. FallenRawToast

    FallenRawToast Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 30, 2014
    LA, CA, USA, NA, SOL
    Yeah I got the same "blow off" letter from Feinstein too, at least I feel better that I have never voted for her now.
  15. Anjaffm

    Anjaffm Dragon Lady ECF Veteran

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    Sep 12, 2013
    You hit the nail right on the head.

    There is a thread on the subject of that silly ad already:

    BP must be really scared now. Never mind smoking. Let's spend our ad money on fighting the competition. :facepalm:
  16. fishj

    fishj Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nice to see the honorable Mr. Durbin cannot spell" availability" correctly. Sad to see it spelled with "ad" in his form letter.
  17. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    It's obvious that our elected representatives haven't studied any non-partisan research that has been completed on e-cigarettes. That, or they have made up their mind and don't care to accept truth.

    It's more about where the government tax and settlement revenue comes from. Don't bite the hand that feeds you (BT). Once we are highly taxed, they will be our friends.
  18. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 16, 2010
    Trust Me, these Senator who are up their Spouting all their Rhetoric about the Evils of e-Cigarettes have seen the Pro Studies. And Know the Health Benefits and HR of e-Cigarette use. (With the Possible Exception to Harkin. Who makes a Great Argument for having a Senility Clause for All Elected Officials.)

    But think how Nice it is to be able to Appeal to the Fears of Uneducated Voters by Calling for the FDA to Ban e-Cigarettes, When you Know Full Well that they have No Plans to do So? It's just a Game. A game about Telling the Majority of the Voters what they Want to Hear.

    If Tobacco as Not a Taxable Vehicle, None of this would be Happening.

    These Senators get Up on their Big Soap Box and Say that e-Cigarettes May Be Evil. So we have to Stop Them. They Know they are Not what they Make them Out to be.
  19. wv2win

    wv2win ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2009
    GA by way of WV
    Fortunately, some of us have elected officials at the federal level, who don't support far left liberal senators wanting to regulate vaping out of existence. Unfortunately, there are vapers even on ECF who voted for and support senators like Durbin, Feinstein, Boxer and Harkin. Changing the leadership of the senate, provides the vaping community the best chance of stopping these regulations as they are presently proposed.

    Dear Mr. xxxxxxxx :

    Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition to regulating electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes). It is good to hear from you, and I can assure you that we are in complete agreement about additional federal regulations.

    I generally believe we need to move away from the idea of the Federal government regulating in a broad and expansive way. If e-cigarettes are to be further regulated, such measures should be developed and implemented at the state and local level rather than by unelected bureaucrats in Washington.

    Thank you again for contacting me. If I can ever be of service in the future, please don't hesitate to call upon me.


    Rob Woodall
    Member of Congress
  20. Damrin

    Damrin Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 31, 2014
    Kearney, NE
    The system is broken. Only an act of god or public uprising can save us now. The poly-ticks of washington are all about money and control. What is the FDA really upset about? They aren't getting their cut... Big tobacco is scared. They can see the writing on the wall, people are tired of their lies and cancerous death sticks. Remember, these are the same people that call for removing guns from private citizens while they themselves hold a concealed carry permit, and surround themselves with armed guards...They know what is best for us. We are too stupid to think for ourselves, so they will do it for us. These people really believe that they need to save us... From ourselves. We need to do more than write letters to our so called elected officials... But what? I am not sure. As I said, the system is broken.
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