Thanks for clearing that up Sun. I plan on picking up some ice machine cleaner this weekend and cleaning my atomizers with that. Getting more life out of our atomizers is a real breakthru. Phosphoric acid seems to be the best tip so far.
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And let's face it... smoking an ecig is somewhat of an art. If you get good hardware and you do figure out all of the in's and out's of that particular piece, you can make them last for a really long time, even with some serious abuse.
I am on month 9 with my atomizer... using it daily for three months now! Testing to see how far I can get her to go... thought I almost lost her a few times... but nursed her back to health and voila... rippin some serious vapor from her still. Oh my god. I just turned my atomizer into a car! 8-o
Lacey--I have a question---does your Husband make you change your automobile own oil too? LOL --He should be doing the maintence on that atomzer for you on a regular basis.
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my best atomizer , used heavily all day every day , was a RN4072 mydnight black one from smokester!
I have had 2 of the exact same model atomizer and neither has ever worked as well as the first one.
what i've noticed too is that since the influx of new members all the old subject matter is being brought up again . Great for the new users but the old timers have been there , done that , got the t-shirt.
"search" will turn up alot of old and relevent question answering threads.
I have had 2 of the exact same model atomizer and neither has ever worked as well as the first one.
what i've noticed too is that since the influx of new members all the old subject matter is being brought up again . Great for the new users but the old timers have been there , done that , got the t-shirt.
"search" will turn up alot of old and relevent question answering threads.
My own brand. (but it would fall into the 4081 category)
Nursing methods: I take the cart off the atomizer and battery put it into my mouth, grip the battery with my teeth and drag until I choke on the nasty dry vapor it produces. This particular atomizer does not like to be wet. The dryer it is, the better it works.
Also, I blow on it, like you would getting an eye lash off of someones face.
Finally, I take the cart off, turn the battery around and blow through the LED, up the battery and out. Just a quick one though so it doesn't cause the atomizer to burn, but whatever is on it to burn off.
Any of these things or a combo usually get her going again!
Lacey--I have a question---does your Husband make you change your automobile own oil too? LOL --He should be doing the maintence on that atomzer for you on a regular basis.
Wait... oil gets changed in cars? LOL.
Please. He knows better than to touch my ecig.
I wonder why the Janty Dura Atomizer warranty is 6 months. surely it wouldn't last that long?
I had one become useless right around the 25ML of e-juice spent.
I went through it in 4 weeks.
Well I would have to say that the RN4072 models I bought from puresmoker seem to still be working. Purchased on 2-5-09 and even with issues with the metal mesh bridges flaking on 3 of the 4 they all still work. Now I will add that I refill my carts mainly although I do on occasion drip. While I have mine glued to my mouth, my husband only occasionally puffs on his.
I do the maintenance on them though and not the least bit technical savy. Wonder if the ice machine cleaner would be ok to use on my falling apart ones with the mesh?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cig-technical-issues/10557-metal-covering-801-a.html
I do the maintenance on them though and not the least bit technical savy. Wonder if the ice machine cleaner would be ok to use on my falling apart ones with the mesh?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cig-technical-issues/10557-metal-covering-801-a.html
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Wait... oil gets changed in cars? LOL.
Please. He knows better than to touch my ecig.
Lacey--Just Checkin!!! LOL--Sun
thats why you pay a heck of alot more for the janty , not because it's any better than any other atomizer , your just paying for the warranty.
Have you tried just giving it a quick burst of air? I have seen shavings in mine and that did the trick.
I am still on the fence about all of this cleaning advice with chemicals and water etc. I am all for doing whatever your particular device likes... but simple has always worked for me.
Trog I know you have been at this for a long time so explain this to me. How come in one month I went through 5 atomizers on my mini pipe? The last week I was using it 3 new atomizers died on me. Yet when I used m401 exclusevily (my first ecig) the atomizer lasted one month no problem and is still running strong. Last week I went back to my m401 and I am hell bent on killing my atomizer. So I don't drain it or clean it. It is still running strong and I compare it with one of my unused m401 ats every day...there is hardly a difference. Again I am a noob...so I am really interested in what you think. I go through 4-5ml of fluid a day.
I do use the search function often. I either get way too much irrelevant info or not enough. The title is key. Few posters realize this. A perfect example is this great new thread about atomizer cleaning titled:"The cola method taken to another level that works". Who is going to be able to find the wealth of info there two months from now? I have a hard enough time finding it as is and the thread is fresh.
So of course the same questions will be asked time and time again. Step up or pass the baton. Because more and more folks with questions are coming every day.
Lorddrek
hehe , I know what your saying , i was just reasoning an earlier post.
On another forum i post on ( not ecig related) if the subject has been covered even once before , the new post would be closed, a little too OTT really.
On another forum i post on ( not ecig related) if the subject has been covered even once before , the new post would be closed, a little too OTT really.
If you're going to search this site,
it's far better to use Google Advanced Search with http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com in the 'site or domain' field.
'Atomizer cleaning' in the 'all these words' field gave 567 hits
(admittedly many from the same thread).
So you can compare 'old' news with 'new' news if you like.
And Trog since you seem to think there's no new info being created by people who
are making the effort to investigate, perhaps you should try it youself to see there is a lot of new info.
After taking off your 'not-invented-here' glasses first of course,
- rather than putting down those who are actually experimenting and producing new information
(I was actually thinking of using another T word.....but I ran out of billy goats)
it's far better to use Google Advanced Search with http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com in the 'site or domain' field.
'Atomizer cleaning' in the 'all these words' field gave 567 hits
(admittedly many from the same thread).
So you can compare 'old' news with 'new' news if you like.
And Trog since you seem to think there's no new info being created by people who
are making the effort to investigate, perhaps you should try it youself to see there is a lot of new info.
After taking off your 'not-invented-here' glasses first of course,
- rather than putting down those who are actually experimenting and producing new information
(I was actually thinking of using another T word.....but I ran out of billy goats)
Part of the pleasure of a forum is having people to 'chat' to about the subject......not to use it like a wiki look up.
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Trog - saying attys get dimmer gradually is true enough but my allusion to the lightbulb was to say that because both are a fine wire we cannot expect them to last forever. Nevertheless, attys DOsometimes stop working suddenly because the deposits as they grow can pull apart to soldered connection. This has been discovered recently by the people here with a genuine interest in the technology and a seeking for improvements.
However the lifetime is greatly influenced by the deposit level. This depends on the juice used which varies widely in the dry deposit level (both on the heater coil and in the wire mesh wicking). Furthermore, generally successful methods of cleaning have been developed to extend their life.
It is also interesting that running attys hotter seems to on average help them last longer, possibly by burning off some of the deposits or by fully phase changing the juice on and in the coil (greater efficiency).
It is a pity you so often choose to offer only your elitist BS instead of contributing helpfully to the discussion. Perhaps you were an early pioneer in the field but now you simply decry anyone else for trying to take the field further, refuse to join in and just sulk. That's a pity but your choice. In fact, there are many knowledgable and talented people here.
Models have changed and new ones come along. Most of us ae actually interested in which models generally have a longer life (as well as good performance).
ps: both the fields of science and technology have frequently benefitted by people looking again at what was once cast in stone. The difference is that I am happy to think aloud and be wrong sometimes; I don't care about being right, I just hope to move things forward.
However the lifetime is greatly influenced by the deposit level. This depends on the juice used which varies widely in the dry deposit level (both on the heater coil and in the wire mesh wicking). Furthermore, generally successful methods of cleaning have been developed to extend their life.
It is also interesting that running attys hotter seems to on average help them last longer, possibly by burning off some of the deposits or by fully phase changing the juice on and in the coil (greater efficiency).
It is a pity you so often choose to offer only your elitist BS instead of contributing helpfully to the discussion. Perhaps you were an early pioneer in the field but now you simply decry anyone else for trying to take the field further, refuse to join in and just sulk. That's a pity but your choice. In fact, there are many knowledgable and talented people here.
Models have changed and new ones come along. Most of us ae actually interested in which models generally have a longer life (as well as good performance).
ps: both the fields of science and technology have frequently benefitted by people looking again at what was once cast in stone. The difference is that I am happy to think aloud and be wrong sometimes; I don't care about being right, I just hope to move things forward.
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But I haven't been of late. They've cost me $ 60 for a kit.
even if they went back to $ 98 it would be worth it though.
If I burn through an atomizer a month with free replacements
I get 5 free atomizers = $ 140 value.
I have four penstyles from e-smokeytreats and also just purchased 4 more from vapornine last week. My 4 Rios hardly put out vapor at all. I have tried all four atomizers with all four batts. No difference. I do like the easy draw from this four hole version, just hardly any vapor. I feel that the problem here is in the batts, as I can run the Rio attys with my e-smokeytreat penstyle batts and they vape better. I have also noticed that the attys are completely different from the two. I emailed Ben a few days before I ordered to ask about the carts, as we wanted to makes sure they were the same as the carts we use on our smokeytreats penstyles. Ben never replied to my query, so I went ahead and ordered 50 blank carts from him to make sure. It is a good thing I did because the carts are competeley different. The carts for the Rio are shorter but have a larger bottom cup. The longer smokeytreats carts will not fit in the Rio attys. I am not sure which one is which kind of penstyle model. smokeytreats shows it to be an 801 and the carts from Vapornine for the Rio say 801 on the boxes. It is just weird that they are both so different. Also the batts for the two are different sized as the Rio's batts are slightly smaller in length and width. The atomizers are also shorter in length on the Rio I am wondering since thie new 4 hole Rio attys seem not to be running as hot as my other penstyles, ie; less vapor, if they will last longer. I have been vaping for a little over a month and have had no atomizers go out on me yet, but I have also amassed 6 901s, 8 penstyles and 4 401s. Of them all I like my Stainless Steel 901s from pursesmoker the best and the 401s the least. The 401 produce good vapor, just leak like crazy.
Ok, enough of my rambling
Ok, enough of my rambling
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