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Mech batteries with Magneto and Evic.

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Sthur, Nov 1, 2013.

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  1. Sthur

    Sthur Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2013
    Denver
    I have an evic with the pink Panasonic battery. Is this battery safe for a magneto? How low ohm can I go with magneto? Was only going to run micro coils on octopus or 3-4 wraps on rsst.

    Also will a geb (FiRePo4) work in evic ok? Says online it's safe chemistry.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Need some links. I can't find these batteries.
     
  3. pmcode

    pmcode Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 22, 2013
    Barstow, CA
  4. Sthur

    Sthur Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2013
    Denver
  5. pmcode

    pmcode Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 22, 2013
    Barstow, CA
    I wouldn't use the samsung in the mech, as it is a protected battery, and I believe does not put out enough amperage. Other, more experienced battery gods will chime in, I'm sure.
     
  6. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I'm not at all familiar with the GEB batteries, and could find no specifications in the C rating or the continuous discharge rate. I would not use those batteries in a mod until those stats can be confirmed.

    The Samsung battery should also not be used.

    My research says the Samsung ICR18650 2600mAh battery is a protected ICR battery. This means its chemistry is not "safe-chemistry" nor is it "high-drain". Regulated mods typically perform best with high drain batteries, as their buck boost processors need the high drain ability to do higher voltage production. ICR batteries typically have insufficient amperage to safely fire regulated mods at high voltages, RBAs or Kick modules, usually less than 5 amps. The Kick comes with instructions recommending its use with only IMR high drain batteries in mechanical mods.

    Below is a list of recommended IMR or Hybrid batteries which I have collected for both mechanical and regulated mods. Pay attention to the identifying numbers and letters when choosing a battery.

    Special IMR/IMR batteries are required for safe sub-ohm vaping: batteries with a continuous discharge rate (CDR) of 20 amps or more are required. These batteries insure only using 80% of their capacity and allow some safe headroom for added safety with sub-ohms.

    AW IMR
    18650 2000mah 10Amp CDR
    18650 1600mah 24A
    18490 (1100mah) 8.8A (16.5A?)
    18350 ​(700mah) 6A

    MNKE IMR
    18650 1500mah ​20A

    Panasonic ​or Orbtronic hybrid
    CGR18650CH (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
    NCR18650PD (LiNiCoAl) 2900mAh 10A
    Orbtronic 18650 SX22 (hybrid) 2000mAh 22A

    Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
    INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
    INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

    Sony
    us18650v3 IMR 2250mAh 10A
    us18650vct3 (hybrid) 1600mAh 30A

    EH IMR
    18650 2000 mAh 16A
    18500 1100 mAh 8.8A
    18350 800 mAh 6.4A

    Efest IMR
    18650 (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
    18650 2000mAh 10A
    18650 1600mAh 30A
    18490 1100mah 8.8A
    18350 800mah 6.4A​

    When using sub-ohms, you need to know the amps in continuous discharge rating for your battery, measure the ohm rating of your coil, and then use the ohm's law calculator below to find the amp draw the coil will pull from the battery. Never exceed the amp draw of your battery.

    Ohm's Law Calculator

    Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected?

    Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

    If you can not understand the above information, you have no business doing sub-ohms.
     
  7. Steam Turbine

    Steam Turbine Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    The short answer is: No

    Do not use that pink battery in a mech.
     
  8. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I should learn to be as direct and to the point as this. :laugh:
     
  9. Sthur

    Sthur Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2013
    Denver
    Thanks bad, you info is always greatly appreciated.
     
  10. smillett_vox

    smillett_vox Full Member Verified Member

    Mar 31, 2013
    Vernon, CT, USA
    Some of my favorite batteries are the grey Panasonic CGR18650CH cause they're good for moderate builds and are some of the best for mechs. They have a drain of 10A and are 2250 mAh.

    What I use now, however, are Sony US18650VTC3 because they have an insane drain of 30A. Meaning you can literally do .1 ohm builds on a mech without them blowing up. They're also pretty cheap at like $11.76 at fasttech for 2 of them.
     
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