Personally I prefer dl, I don't like a restrictive drawer but people don't need to argue do they?? As was said it's personal preference
I see silly utube videos showing grown-up people acting like 8 year olds blowing huge clouds and loving the taste of say, the "Bubble Gum" The object for me was to find something that satisfied my craving for the nicotine hit to the central nervous system. I could care less about the size of the cloud or the taste of the candy.
Low wattage, high resistance vaping on high mg juice is the tool to fix a log habit... great post!
When you stop smoking you definitely need higher nic, and i've even heard of people on plane flights rubbing e-liquid on their gums to cope with long-haul trips.
Not everyone's path is similar. What works for one may or may not work for another.
There are many options and the my way or the highway approach is, to say in the least offending way, is a set up to fail for some. If whatever method someone is using isn't working then a person is left with 2 options. Go back to cigs or change the delivery method. Which makes more sense to you ?
If the main reason for not being able to quit smoking is the lack of nicotine to the brain then why have so many of us failed using gum, patch's etc no matter how much friggin' gum we chewed ?
i needed that action between hand and mouth and vaping covers it as well as the nic intake.
No one is wrong here
Well, I totally disagree with the above 2 posts, as well as similar ones on here. I smoked 1- 1 1/2 PAD for 42+ years, and tried numerous methods to quit in that time. Then, with only a simple double JoyeTech 510 kit (with the shorty atomizers and refillable foam-filled cartridges), and vaping just 3 little 6mL bottles of 11mg juices, and from there on just 6mg juices...I totally quit smoking. Dual used and tapered off the smokes in 2 months. Haven't even wanted a smoke and know I'll never have another one.
I've also helped 8 other people switch to vaping since then. All have been 25+ year smokers, and 3 of them had tried vaping before (gas station cig-a-likes and/or big honkin' kits + high mg eliquid sold to them at vape shops). Helped each of them find a starter kit they were comfortable with and a level of nic that they liked. 6 of the 8 have never used higher than 12mg eliquid. Only 2 started with 18mg for about 4 months, then went down to 12mg. Now, 5 are at 6mg, 3mg, or even lower.
My newest "project" is my niece, who's smoked for 23 years. 2 years ago she was sold 24mg eliquid by a vape shop when she got her first kit from them. She tried and tried to vape it, but it was hurting her throat...so she quit trying. Vape shop kept telling her 24 was "right for her", so she felt it was just a problem with her! I didn't even know she'd tried vaping. As of Christmas, she's vaping some 12mg DIY I made for her, as well as some 6mg, too. She's tapering off on the smokes and is really liking vaping!
So there's no "one size fits all" that works for everyone, no matter how many years they've smoked! With people like my niece and some of the others I've helped, being led into thinking that 24mg or higher is supposed to be used by longtime smokers...it seems that many who could actually quit, if they were helped to find what hardware and nic level is right for them...are just giving up trying instead.
100% agree with the above!
Yep! Totally agree with this, too!
glad to know i'm not the only mutant here...lol going with what someone needs is better than a blanket "high nic/high ohms!"... no one smokes the same and no one vapes the same. if it works for you, great!Didn't say anyone was wrong. Just said I disagree with their posts, which I took to be their opinions. Newbies to vaping don't always "take" many posts as opinions though, but as supposed facts instead. Wanted to voice my differing opinion about nic levels that also "work" for some starting vapers, is all.
Yes agreed, everyone is different and we all just hope that newbies stick with it until they find what works for them. I think because you went with a long ween the 12 mg worked, it gave you time to get mentally prepared. With me, I went straight into 24mg and only dual used a couple days. Personally I still think it's a better choice to use a higher nic (if the device your using it with is a true mtl tank, not a sub tank doing DL because yes, that would be harsh) because I believe alot might loose interest vaping lower nic and dual using for extended times.Well, I totally disagree with the above 2 posts, as well as similar ones on here. I smoked 1- 1 1/2 PAD for 42+ years, and tried numerous methods to quit in that time. Then, with only a simple double JoyeTech 510 kit Dual used and tapered off the smokes in 2 months. :
The main reason to recommend beginner setups with higher nic content juice. Subohming huge clouds is the fad. Low wattage, high resistance vaping on high mg juice is the tool to fix a log habit... great post!
as i've said... it's the blanket you must vape this high nic and this ohms or you will fail that is irking me... not everyone is the same. if someone said i had to use that setup and tried to make me switching using it, i would still be smoking... some posters are of the view it's the only way and it is not. people need to realise people smoke differently, just like they vape differently and need to adjust to what the new vaperer needs, not what they think is the perfect vape.Weird that I have to quote myself and am not able to edit my OG post.
Sorry Vaping Noobs, my statement was in fact opinion and not the be all, end all way to quit smoking. Definitely find what works for you. I needed the high mg nic to quit (that's 12mg/mL) cigs. I was afraid of low ohms in the beginning and stuck to 1.5 to 2 ohm coils. This kept me satisfied for a while but I slowly began wanting more. Everyone is different. As long as you move away from the stink logs your on the right track. Vape on!
Hi! It will be two years as a vaper after a lifetime consumer of a 2pack a day compulsive chain smoker. But I am the only one of the countless folks who I have marched to the web or escorted into brick and mortar stores who have quit smoking. And I really believe the issue is that none of the devices regardless of price, deliver enough nicotine to satisfy the urge. They say "Wow! that sure aint no Marlboro!" I see silly utube videos showing grown-up people acting like 8 year olds blowing huge clouds and loving the taste of say, the "Bubble Gum" The object for me was to find something that satisfied my craving for the nicotine hit to the central nervous system. I could care less about the size of the cloud or the taste of the candy. I believe it is the nicotine hit that is missing. Some folks tried to start off with 3 mgms of nicotine and then an hour later stopped at a Seven 11 to buy a pack of Pall Malls on the way home from the Vape Store. I did this for nearly five years...
Then, a couple of years ago some prince of a guy posted a comment that ecigs deliver nicotine though the lining of the mouth first and to hold the vapor for a few seconds in your mouth before inhaling. Guess what? It works!! So all I am saying is that to start a chain smoker off with 3 mgms of nicotine and not give the advice to hold in in your mouth first is to doom more than a few to failure.. I am the only success story I know of all my friends who have tried.. It is the nicotine hit to the brain that is the root of the failure
I don't see any posts stating that they believe this is the only way, what I see is that most believe that higher nic, percentage wise, is the best way. Yes obviously everyone is different and thank god for that, also thank god that there are indeed options as well to fit these differences. I know people have quit with dl and low nic, I see it here, but i don't think statistically, it's as successful to a completely new vapor .as i've said... it's the blanket you must vape this high nic and this ohms or you will fail that is irking me... not everyone is the same. if someone said i had to use that setup and tried to make me switching using it, i would still be smoking... some posters are of the view it's the only way and it is not. people need to realise people smoke differently, just like they vape differently and need to adjust to what the new vaperer needs, not what they think is the perfect vape.