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My Take on Micro Coil setup

Discussion in 'Coil Builds' started by trentenmarschel, Apr 22, 2014.

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  1. trentenmarschel

    trentenmarschel Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ok so i watched some videos on the tube about micro coil set ups in the kayfun 3.1 so i decided to try it now i will tell you i didnt find anything i liked about it at all there were many cons about it and i will list them.
    1. Uses more wire
    2. Takes longer to heat up and get vapor from it
    3. It continues to sizzle juice for like 10 seconds after releasing the button
    4. Uses more juice and battery
    5. For some reason it taste like crap probably cause it is retaining too much heat and not letting much air cool the coil causing everlasting burnt taste.

    So i am in my truck now at college waiting for class to start as i type this thread. But i am hardly touching my ecig and the first thing i am doing when i get home is building a regular coil set up.. i will never be making a compressed micro coil again i dont like anything about them so i would be happy to hear what you guys think and if you have had a simmilar experience with micro coils.
     
  2. Sed Contra

    Sed Contra Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    What gauge wire?

    With 30 gauge, it is quite responsive and doesn't "sizzle" afterwards.

    What wattage?

    28 gauge and lower can be rather unresponsive and may "sizzle" afterwards if underpowered.
     
  3. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I've never had any of those issues with my KFL+ using 28g wire with a micro coil.

    28g kanthal, 7 wraps on a 1/16" drill bit, wicked with cotton, .9 ohm

    Hits like a beast every time.
     
  4. SLIPPY_EEL

    SLIPPY_EEL Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    maybe you overwicked it to :) you'll one day wrap another and it will rock and you will wonder what you did wrong before, maybe you wont but then you'll never know

    you also need to get that micro right close to your air intake centred :)~GL


    less is more when it comes to cotton
     
  5. trentenmarschel

    trentenmarschel Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    using 28 gauge kanthal and i built a 2.2 ohm coil and had it around 8 to 9 watts
     
  6. trentenmarschel

    trentenmarschel Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    maybe it was cause i wrapped it too many timed from what i read. but i can't go lower than 1 ohm setup with my vv/vw lavatube. ill take a pic of the coil when i take it apart here in a minute
     
  7. SLIPPY_EEL

    SLIPPY_EEL Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    when i had my vw on the go the best i found was about 1.3Ω micro

    yeah you have to many wraps to many ohms

     
  8. SLIPPY_EEL

    SLIPPY_EEL Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    get a 1/16 drill bit or 1.5mm and wrap about 11 tight wraps ... cotton loose that you can slide it in out of both ends easy without it bunching... i normally snip cotton tails as short as i can or cut one flush and the other just long enough to wick:) GL

    http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp
     
  9. Gonzi

    Gonzi Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    In my experience, 28 gauge should be used if your target resistance is 1ohm or lower, if not, you need too much wire + adding the fact that it is so thick, will make it very laggy. I use 30 for most all my builds and have great performance. Like stated above, shoot for 1.3-1.5 if using a VV or VW device and you'll have way better performance. I usually do a 6 wrap of 30gauge on a 5/64" drill bit, and I get 1.4ohms. This is my go to setup on Kayfuns, I can use it on a mech or a VV or VW device and get great response and performance.
     
  10. SLIPPY_EEL

    SLIPPY_EEL Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    5/64 isnt micro coil though... just saying :)

     
  11. Gonzi

    Gonzi Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I consider it a micro since I build it like a micro coil. If it's not, then I love my non-micro coils or fakecro coils :D In my drippers I use 1/16" or the tip of a needle nose bottle for my dual micros in my Aqua, but I like my wick a little fatter in my Kayfuns.
     
  12. sc12

    sc12 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    haha love it
     
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