It's anyone's guess at this point, but I do feel more hopeful about a good resolution to the deeming nightmare than I did before. We shall see.
FDA New President, New Hope?
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For various reasons, most of which don't matter right now, I've been off of ECF for a good 6 months. Anyway, politics is one of the reasons, and this does pertain to this thread. Just came across link Tell Us Your Story that is, from what I understand, President-Elect Trump seeking information on how to make America great again. I'm not up for anyone just clicking that link. In fact do a google search on it beforehand.
But I share it here because I do think it would make for wonderful CTA. My hope, enough of us chime in with idea of Trump said during campaign that he'd roll back regulations. Would be great if one of those regulations were Final Rule. How that all plays out, I'm not sure, but gotta start somewhere, and this link, along with this president, gives me some reason to be optimistic.
But I share it here because I do think it would make for wonderful CTA. My hope, enough of us chime in with idea of Trump said during campaign that he'd roll back regulations. Would be great if one of those regulations were Final Rule. How that all plays out, I'm not sure, but gotta start somewhere, and this link, along with this president, gives me some reason to be optimistic.
It looks like the 2017 budget will be passed very early next year, using reconciliation:
GOP To Use Previously Unheard Of Tactic To Slam Dunk Trump Agenda
Any chance the bill will include Bishop-Cole?
GOP To Use Previously Unheard Of Tactic To Slam Dunk Trump Agenda
Any chance the bill will include Bishop-Cole?
I came to post that link and I agree that it would make a great CTA. It couldn't hurt any to give it a try. These anti-vape regulations the FDA has imposed are the very definition of what Trump claims to despise.
I've been wondering how you are doing and I have noticed your absence.
As for your link, I put my two cents in I think it was yesterday or the day before. But I did send a little snippet for him to think about
Nice to see you again.
Just saw this, Congress will pass a short term budget extension so Trump can participate designing a full budget next year. Apparently that will also allow them to cancel any regulations enacted since May of this year. They mention 48 major regulations in that timeframe. I wonder if Deeming qualifies as a major regulation. It should.
Yet Republicans might have another reason for kicking the spending fight in 2017: It could allow them to roll back more regulations enacted by the Obama administration. Under the Congressional Review Act, the House and Senate can nullify major regulations with a simple majority vote if they act within 60 legislative days of the rule’s enactment. Simply passing a stopgap spending bill now would likely lead the GOP to adjourn Congress a few weeks earlier than planned. And that would stop the legislative clock and allow the House and Senate in January to repeal regulations that went into effect earlier in 2016. (Because Congress was out of session so often this year, the window of “60 legislative days” already stretches back to May.) According to an analysis by the conservative American Action Forum, Republicans would already be able to nullify 48 major regulations in January if Congress does not adjourn early, including rules expanding overtime pay, restricting personal drone use, curtailing drilling in the Arctic Shelf, and mandating significant changes to regulations on food labeling.
Yet Republicans might have another reason for kicking the spending fight in 2017: It could allow them to roll back more regulations enacted by the Obama administration. Under the Congressional Review Act, the House and Senate can nullify major regulations with a simple majority vote if they act within 60 legislative days of the rule’s enactment. Simply passing a stopgap spending bill now would likely lead the GOP to adjourn Congress a few weeks earlier than planned. And that would stop the legislative clock and allow the House and Senate in January to repeal regulations that went into effect earlier in 2016. (Because Congress was out of session so often this year, the window of “60 legislative days” already stretches back to May.) According to an analysis by the conservative American Action Forum, Republicans would already be able to nullify 48 major regulations in January if Congress does not adjourn early, including rules expanding overtime pay, restricting personal drone use, curtailing drilling in the Arctic Shelf, and mandating significant changes to regulations on food labeling.
I read this in the news yesterday. My eyes glazed over.
Thank you for the translation.
There is no new hope. There however is existing bureaucracy.
With out dealing with the existing bloated,expanding, self promoting
bureaucracy little if anything will change. Hundreds of millions if not
billions have already been invested in the governments infrastructure
to take over larger and larger percentages of the economy.
The legislative branches of government have no choice other than
increasing revenue streams to meet the growing demands of the bureaucracy.
Anyone who deals with school district referendums knows this. The money is
not for the chillin. It's to pay the retirement and health benefits of the teachers.
All the teachers will tell you this and claim they were promised this.
Expect honest math teachers who did the math an knew this isn't going
to work in the long run.
Regards
Mike
With out dealing with the existing bloated,expanding, self promoting
bureaucracy little if anything will change. Hundreds of millions if not
billions have already been invested in the governments infrastructure
to take over larger and larger percentages of the economy.
The legislative branches of government have no choice other than
increasing revenue streams to meet the growing demands of the bureaucracy.
Anyone who deals with school district referendums knows this. The money is
not for the chillin. It's to pay the retirement and health benefits of the teachers.
All the teachers will tell you this and claim they were promised this.
Expect honest math teachers who did the math an knew this isn't going
to work in the long run.
Regards
Mike
On one hand, you have scientists relaying their findings to the public, with no political or ideological motivations whatsoever, and on the other you have people who are clearly politically and ideologically motivated to deny these findings.
Outside of the few scientists who propose alternative explanations, everyone else is as bone headed as flat earthers and evolution deniers. Their opinions are invalid and dangerous, they deserve to be shut out of the conversation, and they do not deserve to be heard. The same can't be said the other way around. Ignorant rhetoric is not worth as much as an educated and informed opinion.
Donald Trump espouses inane, ignorant rhetoric on this matter, not valid contrary opinion. I can't forgive him this potentially catastrophically dangerous viewpoint, just because his staff helps our cause as vapers, but it would be one minuscule silver lining I suppose.
I agree 100%. I think that they could make an argument that what can be done at this point, worldwide, may not have much of an impact on the outcome of climate change, but to just deny the science is pretty inane. And if you're going to make that argument, you should be considering what will need to be done to mitigate the effects on peoples lives, not just stick your head in the sand.
If you looked at just the science behind tobacco and vaping it would be obvious that there are ways of using tobacco and nicotine that are significantly less harmful then inhaling smoke (about 99%). It is only because the issue has become politicized that there is a debate on the issue, and a false controversy.
If you ignore the politicalization of climate change and just read the science, it is clear that climate change is man made and is a huge problem. It is only the politicalization that has created controversy and rather bizarre theories (its all a plot by liberals to take over the world).
Unfortunately some in the vaping world, who obviously have there own agenda, are willing to sacrifice the scientific integrity of the tobacco harm reduction movement with there own political craziness. No doubt that actually believe in what they are saying, but it is a very bad idea to throw in with them.
Wrt climate change, if there is no political motivation, then why are all their "solutions" socialist rather than market based. This was true for global cooling as well as global warming - same solution - socialism.
When Bjorn Lomborg, The Skeptical Environmentalist, (as just one example - who was at one time one of their "own") suggested other solutions, he got death threats and was no longer invited to their clannish conferences.
Good science predicts. Yet few of the predictions made by the global alarmists have come true.
25 Years Of Predicting The Global Warming ‘Tipping Point’
18 spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year - AEI
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430380/
Many have said that at point X in time, there's no turning back. And yet we've bypassed all of those X dates, so any 'new' solutions - according to them - would be fruitless at this point.
What many climate change "experts" call "the Pause" is going on 19 years where no warming has occurred. There are less (not more) hurricanes and tornados and other "predicted" climate disasters.
NASA Admits It's Unable to Solve 'Mystery of Why Global Warming Appears to Have Slowed'
Extreme weather failing to follow 'global warming' predictions: Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Droughts, Floods, Wildfires, all see no trend or declining trends
I don't have time to address all this, but market forces can't solve all problems and to call anything that is not market driven, socialism is just plan ridiculous. There are many things that are being done to lower carbon emissions that are a win/win for everyone. More efficient cars, for example, not only produce fewer emissions, but save people money and help lower our need for oil. Renewable, non-polluting energy is getting cheaper all the time. These things help everyone. If people are allowed to use resources as they will, guided only by market forces, with no regulation, the future will not be very bright (see the "Tragedy of the Commons").
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