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New to vaping, too much throat hit.

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  1. retired soldier

    retired soldier Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2012
    I first tried vaping 3 weeks ago, KGO starter kit, and it went well, however I was just recovering from abdominal surgery, and it was not the best time to start, so I was vaping and smoking. Now that I am pretty well recovered, I find that the throat hit is just too much to take no matter what flavors I try. I cough every time, and that is not so good after my surgery. So far all my juices are from one source, no breakdown of VG/PG is given. I am 77, and have been smoking since I was 13, and would really like to get off the smokes, but if I can't vape without the congestion and coughing I don't think this is going to work. I have looked in at Backwoods brew, and Copper Creek and I can pick my own VG/PG ratio, but I don't have a clue as to what ratio might help. I now have a Provari and have tried lowering the voltage a bit, and am using both single and dual tanks, but so far it hasn't helped. any ideas about decreasing the throat hit (actually more like lung hit to me) would be appreciated.

    Thanks, Ron
  2. Yves

    Yves Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2012
    Matamata, New Zealand
    TH comes from Voltage, nicotine content and PG.

    What mg nicotine are you using?

    Maybe cut that down a little and the TH will be less. More VG in your juice will also lessen the TH.
  3. alphanumeric

    alphanumeric Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 6, 2011
    Orange County
    I'd switch to a vendor that gives you the ratios of the stuff theyre mixing. They'll obviously give you a nic content % as well.

    Lowering the voltage on the provari might help a little, but at a certain point, you wont really be able to taste the liquid.

    Im sure lowering the nic level would be your best best.
  4. 440BB

    440BB Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2011
    The Motor City
    First think I'd check is if you're inhaling like a cigarette or puffing. I had the same problem at first until I realized that you don't inhale an ecig like you would a cigarette. Try taking a pull into your mouth like you were puffing a cigar, then inhale it. It cools a bit and doesn't hit the back of your throat nearly as much.

    The ironic thing is that most of the nicotine absorption occurs in your mouth tissues anyway! We inhale because we like the warm lung hit, but if you just puff and hold it you'll get a pretty good nicotine rush too. Good luck!
  5. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Juice Components
    Flavoring usually about 15%
    PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
    VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
    Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
    Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
    TH is dependent on the PG which enhances TH and the nicotine/ mg level. You may also want to use a higher ohms cartomizer if you're getting too much TH. Lower res cartomizers (1.7- 2.0 ohms) give a warmer vape. Higher res cartos gives a cooler/ smoother vape.
    Realize also vaping dehydrates and can ruin the vape experience. The PG and VG traps the moisture in our throats and mouth and thus the vapor. I drink at least 1 1/2 liters water per day. More than 3 cups java can also add to the dehydration.
  6. glassmanoak

    glassmanoak Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2012
    Lafayette, La
  7. fourthrok

    fourthrok Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 12, 2012
    Watertown, NY
    Keep in mind that while it's more common for there to be an allergic reaction (in a very tiny percentage of people) to PG...VG can frequently cause breathing issues with people who are susceptible. Not an "allergy" per se...but a sensitivity in the tissues to the VG. PG will enhance the TH and flavor while the VG helps produce more and thicker vapor. For a long time I avoided VG because it caused my sinuses to become irritated and I'd get a feeling of things getting coated in there...I was coughing all the time. But everyone is different. I've managed to work up to being able to use a 85/15 PGVG mix now without trouble...but then, I'm vaping very a very low 5mg juice. Higher nicotine levels can cause irritation and coughing, too. That "too much TH" feeling. My husband was trying to use e-cigs for months without much success because of the coughing. He was trying to use a 24 mg. juice...and was using a PV that ran around 4.2 volts. When we got him to go no higher than 18mg (usually around 12mg) and got a variable voltage battery so he could adjust his volts down as needed he stopped coughing and did much better. He usually vapes at around 3.8 now.
  8. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    The resistance of the atomizer coil is also a factor. Voltage and resistance combinations equate to wattage, which equates to throat hit, flavor, and warmth in the vapor.

    On a Provari, the best starting point is at 3 ohms and 3.7v. Some like it hotter and will crank the voltage as high as 5 volts. I'd start at 3.7v and move up and down to suit.

    You can use 2 ohm cartos at 3.3v to 3.7v and get a good vape. Dual coils need lower voltage, also. You might want to try mixes of PG and VG as was said up topic. 70/30 pg/vg is a good starting point. Your tolerance for throat hit will adjust over time. There was a time when 100% PG killed my throat. Now, I vape 100% PG all day.

    Remember when your first cigarettes burned your throat and sent you into a coughing fit?
  9. Renolizzie

    Renolizzie Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    I totally applaud your efforts to quit smoking and use the e cig especially at the age of 77! You rock, Ron. My only advice since I am a newbie is that you hold the vapor in your mouth and then breathe in some into your lungs. Seems to help me on the cough thing.
  10. s14sher

    s14sher Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2011
    I never had a problem with too much throat hit, but my aunt did. She switched to 50/50 pg/vg and it's working for her.
  11. retired soldier

    retired soldier Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2012
    Thanks all, now I have several ideas to try, and I am sure I can work it out.

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