New US legislative status map - please comment

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Reported it to Kristin for you :)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I also checked out the link in your sig "E-Cigarette Politics," and that is a website I am bookmarking ASAP! I've been a "desktop activist," signing petitions, letters to congressmen/senators and other law and policy makers, for a couple years now, and helping to spread the word about e-cigs has just become my new favorite cause! I despise Big Business just on the general principle of they have too much money and too few ethics, and Big tobacco/Big Pharma are some of the worst offenders (along with Big Liquor, but I think that's a different site ;) ).

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I'm busily sucking up all the articles on the "E-cigarette Politics" site, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of a contact link for this site; I'm reading "The Taboo Words in e-Cigarette Politics," and I've come to a point in it where I think there may be an error in homonym choice, or else I don't understand what is being said --

You cannot move a community by mentioning the P-word. They will run swiftly in the opposite direction. Instead, you must:

Present simple, discreet tasks as a requirement to retain one's rights, and avoid any contamination by mention of anything P-related.

Do they really mean that there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks, or did they actually mean "discrete", separate, individual tasks? I think the latter would make more sense in the sentence as stated, but maybe there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks that need doing? I'd really like to contact the author and find out which it is. I see the twitter link at the top, but I confess, I'm really not much of a twitterer -- no cellphone! So I usually prefer Facebook. How would I use the "@rolygate" twitter link, to make contact with them?

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Do they really mean that there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks, or did they actually mean "discrete", separate, individual tasks? I think the latter would make more sense in the sentence as stated, but maybe there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks that need doing?
It would be the latter.
 

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Ok, that was what I thought the sentence was saying, but wasn't sure; the two words sound alike and spell-check would give no help at all, but they don't mean anything alike -- hence my confusion! :)

Actually I think maybe I was hoping there *were* some secret things we might do to undermine the tobacco industry! ;) I guess all we can really do is just keep using the e-cigs, tell folks about them and all their benefits, and thereby re-route an ever-increasing chunk of cash away from everyone who benefits from smokers who don't quit -- at this point it would be kinda like stopping the internet! :D

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Well hmm. I tried to sign up just now, but got this error:




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Some people may be linking their signatures to old links that may be broken, because Constant Contact (our email database service) recently updated the software and we had to re-link to the new sign up forms.

Folks can sign up here: Become a CASAA Member

Update Profile/Email info here: Update My Profile/Email Address

Thank for joining CASAA! :)
 

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Some people may be linking their signatures to old links that may be broken, because Constant Contact (our email database service) recently updated the software and we had to re-link to the new sign up forms.

Folks can sign up here: Become a CASAA Member

Update Profile/Email info here: Update My Profile/Email Address

Thank for joining CASAA! :)

Thank you for the updated link -- I got it done, this time! :)

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I'm busily sucking up all the articles on the "E-cigarette Politics" site, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of a contact link for this site; I'm reading "The Taboo Words in e-Cigarette Politics," and I've come to a point in it where I think there may be an error in homonym choice, or else I don't understand what is being said --



Do they really mean that there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks, or did they actually mean "discrete", separate, individual tasks? I think the latter would make more sense in the sentence as stated, but maybe there are some secret, hidden, confidential tasks that need doing? I'd really like to contact the author and find out which it is. I see the twitter link at the top, but I confess, I'm really not much of a twitterer -- no cellphone! So I usually prefer Facebook. How would I use the "@rolygate" twitter link, to make contact with them?

Thx!
Andria

Rolygate is our Forum Manager too, and can be contacted here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/support/ , well for ECF issues.

If you would like to contact Rolygate about content on the E-Cigarette Politics site, please use the Contact form linked to near the top right on the home page of the ECP site.

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Rolygate is our Forum Manager too, and can be contacted here: E-Cigarette-Forum

Thx much! I've read most of that site now, and I am just *LIVID* about the suppression of e-cigs, and hence the promotion of cancer, by those who SHOULD be looking out for the public's best interests, but instead they are as usual lining their own pockets. I'd love to setup a site (I'm a webmaster and web designer myself) similar to E-Cigarette Politics, but slanted more to the US, where our own politicians are surely the most corrupt in the world (especially when you consider how they helped Wall St destroy the US housing market and basically the entire US economy). I'd also like to create some kind of petition on The Petition Site, or signon.org, but I am not sure exactly what the exact basis of the petition should be, and to whom it should be directed -- just a blanket "stop being such a crook" would probably not be very effective. :D

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Hi Andria.

If you would like to contact me about content on the E-Cigarette Politics site, please use the Contact form linked to near the top right on the home page of the ECP site. That site is a personal leisure pursuit of mine and has no connection with this website at all (I have, or assist others on, a multitude of sites and none are connected with ECF).

That page is an old one, perhaps the first article I wrote for the new site and it probably needs a re-vamp...


Regarding petitions: my personal opinion (though many would disagree) is that petitions come about 2 on a scale of 1 to 100 of things that people can do to help protect vaping. The reasons for that are many and complex, but start with:
1. If we claim there are millions of vapers (as we do), and a major petition gets 20,000 signatures (about 1/30th of the size a petition to build a death star gets - exactly what image does this present regarding our real strength?
2. If the petition is poorly worded, poorly targeted, obviously written by someone who has no real idea of the current legislatory situation, and was obviously written by someone who has limited education - what image does that present?
3. If there are dozens of such petitions every year, almost all of which are more a less a waste of time - what good does that do us?
4. If people sign a petition, they think they are helping but have in fact done nothing, and this may prevent them doing something that actually helps.

I'm not saying petitions are bad. I'm saying (a) there are 98 better things to do if you actually want to help, and (b) the major organisations are the best people to organise them.

Things that *do* help are:
1. 10,000 people going to their Representatives' office and camping out there till they get a hearing, and taking plenty of appropriate documentation with them.
2. 10,000 people writing physical letters mailed to their Rep, with your personal story plus appropriate docs and links to genuine web resources - and repeating and repeating until the secretary asks the Rep to do something about it.
3. 10,000 people phoning their Rep again and again until something is done.
4. 10,000 people faxing their rep again and again and again until something is done.
5. People with specialist talents or positions, en masse, exerting pressure that their position or talent allow them to. For example journalists, web specialists, lawyers, doctors, and nurses. If I had to pick two groups with the most power, it's journalists and nurses (they have more power than is generally recognised).

Those things work. Petitions are OK after all that is done, and done again, and done again. In other words: not much.


Setting up a website: if that's your game, go for it. Choose Wordpress (simple) or Joomla CMS (more capable) if you can work with those platforms; otherwise something else. Make sure to get a good domain name, and buy up anything similar to it. Don't blog on a hosted site if you think your site has any chance of longevity: most of the value (in all respects) goes to the domain owner (ex: Blogger.com etc.).

Aim to specialise in some aspect of the campaign: host resources, or write commentary, or blog on news, or examine a particular aspect of the issues. And so on. Choose something you can do in your sleep or it'll get too hard.

Or, for the young: bite off more than you can chew, and find out what you're made of :)


Hope some of that helps, somehow.
 

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I design templates for Joomla, so setting up a Joomla site is certainly something I can do, although my own talents run more to site design and implementation than content creation. I'd really like to link to your articles, as they are so concise, well-written, and powerful. At the moment, though, the single domain I own is about all I can afford -- thanks mostly to this corrupt gov't trashing the whole economy. I used to own about 10 domains, but money's grown so tight I've had to let all but one go.

As for all those other things... admirable aims, but the only conceivable way I could reach 10,000 people is by... creating a petition on SignOn.org or The Petition Site. Without a petition that could reach a large audience on either or both of those sites, I'm just one voice -- kinda gets lost in the noise.

So I guess all I can really do is switch to e-cigs myself, and hope sanity will prevail over venality so they don't become impossible to get, or so expensive I can't afford them. Faint hope, probably, given all the resources being brought to bear against e-cigs. I thought maybe I could do something to help, but I guess not.

Consider me shot down,
Andria
 

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Thank you for your kind words about my site. No one has ever described my articles as concise, so I expect you mean accurate or something like that. I did publish a concise one today, though - just to prove I could do it!

It is possible you have misinterpreted what I meant about 10,000 people - it was supposed to be in the context of petitions, and their limited value. It was designed to say: "Don't bother about petitions until you and 10,000 other people have done xxxxx....". It was specifically about how low on the scale of importance they are.

On the contrary, what you can do, as a web-savvy person, is far more useful. That is why I explained what the basic web options are. The average person needs to visit their Rep's office; but you can probably achieve more by publishing pro-ecig material. Journalists have the most useful voice, followed by web publishers; nurses have the most influence on the ground.

Everyone should do what their talent allows - and yours is web stuff. Go for it. You might find out why content authors curse or praise the template authors :)

[requests from a J template user]
Please don't:
- write compressed CSS for a template, it's an abomination (yes I know it can be decompiled).
- leave any inline CSS
- leave any JS scripts on the page
thanx :)
 

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I design templates for Joomla, so setting up a Joomla site is certainly something I can do, although my own talents run more to site design and implementation than content creation. I'd really like to link to your articles, as they are so concise, well-written, and powerful. At the moment, though, the single domain I own is about all I can afford -- thanks mostly to this corrupt gov't trashing the whole economy. I used to own about 10 domains, but money's grown so tight I've had to let all but one go.

As for all those other things... admirable aims, but the only conceivable way I could reach 10,000 people is by... creating a petition on SignOn.org or The Petition Site. Without a petition that could reach a large audience on either or both of those sites, I'm just one voice -- kinda gets lost in the noise.

So I guess all I can really do is switch to e-cigs myself, and hope sanity will prevail over venality so they don't become impossible to get, or so expensive I can't afford them. Faint hope, probably, given all the resources being brought to bear against e-cigs. I thought maybe I could do something to help, but I guess not.

Consider me shot down,
Andria

Don't feel shot down. CASAA can always use help with all aspects of the operation, as it's ALL volunteer. Someone with your skills would be very handy helping with the website, I'm sure. If you have SEO skills, that would help too. Email the Board, or even PM Elaine (vocalek), Kristin (kristin), or Greg (Placebo Effect) for direction. :)
 
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