New York City Counil trying to ram through e-cigarette usage ban -- Health Committee hearing December 4th at 10 AM

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  1. Placebo Effect

    Placebo Effect Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    The hearing gets announced the day before Thanksgiving. Classy.

     
  2. mgavilondo

    mgavilondo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    This is a complete load of $ h i t! Would we rather our middle school kids start smoking analogs in middle school or e-cigs? Cause you know they're gonna smoke something! The chokehold has begun folks. We're in the last throws of the Wild Wild West. Enjoy it while it lasts cause it won't :(


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  3. stitt

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    Remind me to never go to New York City!
     
  4. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes, they're trying to push this through with little notice. NYC vapers better be prepared. Even that might not be enough in Bloomberg's little play yard.
     
  5. mgavilondo

    mgavilondo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm in Long Island.. Work in NYC!..we are underrepresented here, very few B&M shops compared to other states. The fact that we are supposed to buy into the gov't regulating something that hasn't even been proven to be harmful is appalling. To put us in the same category as smokers, relegating us to share the same stink air as smokers, huddling outside amongst them because of what the
    perception is an unacceptable injustice. Nicotine alone is about as addictive as caffeine. It's proven in a Drexel University study testing the water vapor of 9,000 vapors finding no discernible toxins to humans. E cigs are saving lives not killing us like cigs...Bloomberg's law is also based on an unproven risk, that maybe there's something we don't know yet about the so called dangers. Since we don't know if this could potentially hurt us, let's make it as hard as possible to enjoy what all of know has saved us from the very proven risks of smoking... Let's take away the right to engage in this far safer alternative by banning it in parks, beaches and restaurants so we are outcasted as smokers are. Let's punish those that are trying to heal themselves! And lastly, while we're at it, we won't ban it entirely cause how will we profit from it then? Instead we will get rid of the great flavors and replace it with bare bones cigarette flavors.. menthol and regulars tobacco which we will tax the crap out it too, so that the hassle to get a good vape may not even be worth the trouble. Gone is self regulation of private business. Image and perception replacing fact. Petitions signed by those of us that have lost loved ones to tobacco, and those who have have smoked their way into illness and disease for years can finally breathe again remains unheard by the powers that be. Perception, greed and ignorance replacing fact. And that fact is proven every day by the positive physical changes in those who used to smoke. The hypocrisy of the FDA, whom has deemed the ingredients in e cigs to be generally safe is now slowing choking us. If they want to regulate, regulate the bad vendors use other additives besides PG/VG.. regulate the materials used in devices, make sure labs are clean if you will. That makes sense, don't make vaping the enemy. Don't make the cure the same or worse than the disease!


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  6. JustJulie

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  7. JustJulie

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    double post
     
  8. soba1

    soba1 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Stay positive people thats all I can say
     
  9. 5150sick

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    It is a sad, sad world when children and teens have extremely easy access to all kinds of illegal substances but since the war on drugs has failed the Government wants to look like they are looking out for the best interest of kids.
    I call BS on this.
    Parents need to start doing their jobs like they did with our generation.
    Now you have children and teens who have single parents who work and they stick a bunch of electronics in their kids faces and call the TV and Laptop the Babysitter.
    Then they are so shocked to find out little Billy is on drugs and little Becky is pregnant by the time they are in 9th grade.
    This is when the blame shifting takes affect.
    It becomes everyone's fault but them and their little angels.
    These parents need to look in the mirror first when they start passing out the blame and to their children second.
     
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