Nico patches and Vivid dreams

Discussion in 'Nicotine Replacement Therapy' started by Geezer, Mar 15, 2010.

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  1. Geezer

    Geezer Full Member

    Ive been bouncing around between cigs, e-cigs and patches. One thing I notice is when I use patches (i keep them on during sleep) I have an incredible amount of very realistic dreams. Anyone else?
     
  2. aine

    aine Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    That's normal in my experience. Whenever I tried the patch I had to remove them about 2 hours before bedtime or else I experienced the most horrifying vivid dreams. Made me wonder what the hell was in my subconscious that brought on such horrible nightmares, but anyway... When I took them off before bedtime I could get a decent night's sleep but then I had to deal with the extreme cravings when I got up the next morning. It was quite the roller coaster ride. Needless to say the patch didn't work for me, the e-cig was the only thing that's worked for me. This addiction is such a personal journey, I hope you find the path that works best for you. Good luck. I hope you can find a way to say goodbye to the analogs for good.
     
  3. Geezer

    Geezer Full Member

    Thanks for the well wishes! But honestly I enjoy dreaming and to me its worth the lost sleep. Its kind of mysterious to me-why do the patches make me dream. Not to brag but I am really good at sleeping and if theres a show during it well, even better. Im enjoying it and if anyone knows a better way to induce dreaming please share.
     
  4. vaporjoey

    vaporjoey Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Just yesterday I started wearing a nico patch along with vaping......I am afraid i will smoke if not.....You guys think I am asking for trouble?


    And bye the way, I feel you about the dreaming....WOW! They are like dreams I have never had before....
     
  5. Jeremy386

    Jeremy386 Full Member ECF Veteran

    I had some of the coolest dreams while on the patch. Most vivid I've ever had. The last dream I had on the patch was a groundhog kinda of dream that kept repeating itself. Which wouldn't have been so bad, except the end was always the same, a shotgun blast to my chest. Started on the analogs again the next morning.

    -Jeremy
     
  6. Vaporista

    Vaporista Senior Member ECF Veteran

    I only wore them on ultra long haul flights and I would always have the same dream that the aircraft was plunging down through the night sky into the briny depths of Davy Jones's locker. That would wake me in a quivering cold sweat.:D
     
  7. Scorched

    Scorched Super Member ECF Veteran

    The reason it might give you vivid dreams is because nicotine is a stimulant. For me, it works similar to caffiene; it wakes me up and keeps me alert. When you fall asleep there are two different stages, one where you are in a deep sleep and are not dreaming. this is the stage of sleep when your brain releases natural HGH (human growth hormone) which causes your body to grow and is alos synomonus with muscle growth and repair. The other is REM (rapid eye movement) sleep which is not as deep; this stage of sleeping is when you dream.

    I can anly assume that because nicotine is a stimulant it may increase the ammount of time it takes to fall into a deep sleep, leaving you semi-awake. Sustaining a lighter snooze during the night is when you mind is much more active and is wandering off into bizarre realms of dream land.

    Hope that helps :D
     
  8. Zenfrogs

    Zenfrogs Super Member ECF Veteran

    I was on the patch once and had some really creepy vivid dreams ... also made me sweat ...was gross...never again.
     
  9. Adagio11

    Adagio11 Full Member ECF Veteran

    I had this experience switching to a PV. I think the nic content was too high for me (24mg). But, for the first week or two, until I switched all the way down to 8mg, I had the strangest dreams ever. Maybe it also has to do with the release of toxins after one quits smoking...a combination?
     
  10. K-Space

    K-Space Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Going to try wearing the patch and vaping 0 nic liquid next week, when i recieve the e-liquid in the mail. hoping this will be my final battle. ive been vaping for 3weeks and was able to give the cigs up the same day. I smoked for 25 years at 1.5 packs a day.:unsure:
     
  11. erischilde

    erischilde Full Member

    patches and sleeping always equaled weird dreams for me...

    if i could afford to not get the best sleep, i'd sleep with a patch on and have the craziest dreams!!!
    but weekdays (worknights) i'd take the patch off just before bed, easier to fall asleep and more restful...

    as for vaping/smoking/chewing nic products while on the patch: if you need more nic, you need more nic. you cannot quit until you are comfortable... you will notice nausea, headaches, sweats if you have TOO much, at that time cut down...

    so. if you feel comfortable at 3 smokes and the patch a day. do that for a couple days, then start to cut down.

    Good luck!
     
  12. whitevans1

    whitevans1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    reading these responses makes me want to go buy some patches again. just to wear at night before bed XD.
     
  13. NoMoCamels

    NoMoCamels Full Member

    I don't remember dreams frequently like I did in my youth. When I wore the patch I had the most vivid and horrifying dreams. It was a novelty at first, but became dreadful to fall off to sleep. I would wake up with heart pounding, pulse racing, and breathing like a carp on land. My question is: Do I have these dreams without the patch and just don't remember when waking up. I am generally a happy well adjusted person without any psychological or social issues. Then, why would I write, produce, and direct these horror movies in my mind at night??
    Well, no sleep issues after two months of vaping and zero analogs. Vape on!
     
  14. Harleydiver

    Harleydiver Full Member

    I loved my patch dreams, but I love vaping even more!
     
  15. Tinky

    Tinky Senior Member ECF Veteran

    I've used patches before...surreal dreams!! I don't like the patches because I noticed soreness in my shoulders...wore the patches over my deltiods...anyone else notice this??? I'm just Vaping now and a little gum during the day at work.
     
  16. dandelionwings

    dandelionwings Super Member ECF Veteran

    i would have nightmares, vivid but horrible, so i would have to take the patch off. the smoking cessation nurse that i worked with suggested a low dose nic patch for sleeping in order to off-set morning cravings and that did help for a bit. i'm glad that some have good dreams ---but man, mine never were until i decreased the dose. :D
     
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