AngusATAT, check your PM from md on BigJim's board. Something's up over there. testing if it is here tonight.
Good, its not here. So it is not my machine. Houston, we have a problem...
AngusATAT, check your PM from md on BigJim's board. Something's up over there. testing if it is here tonight.
The TMJ is caused by "jaw clenching", also known as "bruxism". I had it so bad when I quit all nicotine about 20 years ago that I needed to get a "night guard" made by the dentist and a prescription for muscle relaxants. The pain was blinding.
You won't find "jaw clenching" in the list of nicotine withdrawal symptoms, but it has been observed in nicotine abstinence. Also, take a look at this book page:
Smoking: psychology and pharmacology - Google Books
Yes, if you are one of the people who experiences clenching, I would guess it would have been tons worse without the vaping. You might try increasing your nicotine in some way and see if that affects it. Options are to try stronger liquid, vape more often, or add another source such as nicotine gum or snus.
Hi Kurt - Thanks so much for sharing your amazing story. I'm also afflicted with a degenerative nerve condition. Mine is multiple sclerosis. MS also damages/destroys the myelin sheath protecting the nerves. I have peripheral neuropathy (numbness, "tingling", the sensation of the limb being asleep) in my arms, hands, legs, feet, upper back, and around my mouth. It's there 24/7. In my case, it seems that the nerves in the areas of the body that are typically the most sensitive such as the fingertips and bottoms of the feet have short-circuited and refuse to work at all. I can't feel the ground if I'm standing still, but I get some pressure sensation if I'm walking or rocking from one foot to another. Without a cane I'd fall flat on my face (and sometimes do that anyhow).
Other areas of skin have hyper-sensitive nerves. Although I used to love walking in the rain, it now feels like ice on my skin, and snowflakes feel like needles. A hair touching my face can be excrutiating. I can no longer tolerate heat which exacerbates my symptoms. Although I once shunned air conditioning, it is now literally a life-saver. The only thing that has ever soothed my "buzzing" has been cold. I sleep with the window and sliding glass door of my bedroom open to the outdoors all year long unless it's forecast to go below 15 degrees! This is in Indiana where the winters can be brutal at times.
I only wish that nicotine provided some sort of relief. It's extremely interesting to me that we both have degenerative nerve diseases causing destruction of the myelin sheath - and yet we don't both achieve relief from nicotine. Just out of curiosity: What mg nic do you consume? I pretty much vape all day but I only use 12 mg.
Wow, that is a really interesting story! I believe that the medicinal qualities of nicotine are not as researched as they could be due to the "super anti" people...you know, the Nazi types that make a living off of being "anti" something - and make your skin crawl to be around.
By sheer observation - it has become accepted fact that there are many diseases tobacco users do not get. It is sad that it had to be by mere observation...not hard research.
There is a company...Targacept...that is throwing quit a bit of nrg into researching the biochemical pathways of nicotine for pharm application. They are a spin off of RJ reynolds..I believe. They actually get "blow back" from drugs that are developed from nicotine research. Think about that ... this is the dogma that the "Anti everything Nazi's" have brough on our "advanced" civilization. A huge percentage of the population fears any drug that has been developed from knowledge gained from researching the pathways of nicotine. Dogma is dangerous...always...but when it reaches these levels...it shed some incite on just how Nazi Germany came to be.
Jamaesi, hey maybe something as simple as increasing nic is working, at least to offset the acute pain! I do not envy your situation. It sounds like your spine is trying to self destruct! The injuries you have been through or are going through are pretty difficult to treat painwise, and you may well need something much stronger than nic. There are electrical stimulation devices that have proven to be fairly effective (the name I am remembering is Beck, electro-stimulation therapy, or something like that). And certain strains of less a less legal plant...
Keep us informed here of what you find out over the next few days! I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to hear about it!
abhowe said:I have severe Migraine Headaches and take narcotics, Tylenol with Codeine #3 to be exact..... These do not kill the pain but take the edge off..... Sometimes I will wake up with pain and not be able to sleep..... I get up and have 2 - 3 cigarettes and go back to bed and also to sleep.......
jamaesi, well that's our fabulous medical system! i personally stay away from it entirely. once I realized that western medicine would not help me at all with GBS, i did much better. But this may not be possible for your situation.
Disclaimer: again, I am not a doctor, but...
I did get significant relief from nerve pain with tegretol, an anti-seizure med. it is also used for trigeminal neuralsia (spelling?)...the face nerve problem that is so awful. Another one like this is neurontin and I believe topomax. Anyway, these done act like opiates. In the beginning there are side effects like sedation and fever, but once you acclimate one of these may well be of benefit.
No offense, but maybe there is something about your appearance that is making them reluctant to give out pain meds. Maybe you come across as someone who will abuse them? I have found as a rule that western docs tend to be somewhat shallow and too worried about liability.
Best of luck, and keep us posted.
Kurt
TJ, OMG!! I actually HAVE Crohn's disease (CD), too! This is going to sound crazy, but for about 9 months early on in my GBS recovery, I dated a woman, and is often the case, I quit smoking for her. I would just gut out the nerve pain periods. But in that time I developed Crohn's disease, passing blood and tissue. It was diagnosed by scope, so it seems it was what it was. Then we broke up, and I gravitated back to smoking. Most symptoms of CD went away, including blood and tissue and gut pain! I never knew why, but I am thinking about this now, and CD flairup is another issue I have always had when trying to quit analogs! Perhaps I know why now! BTW, I have had far LESS issues with CD even compared to smoking a pack a day of Winston LIghts. I think there may actaully be some things in analogs that aggrevate CD a bit, but the nic helps almost completely. Now with nic only, I am amazed at how well behaved I am down there!
In fact I would not be surprised if people that quit analogs and nic completely, the cold-turkey folks, have higher incidence of CD. After all, quitting is shown to lead to constipation and other gastric problems.
Ok, so that's at least two things I could, if I had to, go to a doc for to get a script to vape. If vaping becomes perscription only, that is. Oh, to have insurance pay for a chuck and life supply to excellent juice. (And then he pinched himself and realized THAT was a dream!). Why is it that I pay for insurance that allows only drugs that don't work, and anything that does work is under attack or illegal, at least in PA? It all goes back to rants I made early on here: there is no approved healthcare here, only disease care, or managed death.