Nicotine Comparisons

[JeremyR]

Its purified water.. Many do it with VG nicbase it is annoying as hell cause they don't even tell you how much it's diluted. I always go for the thicker vg NICs that have less water added.

They do it so it blends easier preventing nic hot spots.

 

[Jimi D.]

Agreed !! If they are adding water I'm going to be P!$$ed off !! I was thinking maybe it was a little bit of PG ?? Water is unacceptable and I will be calling CS first thing Monday.. I will report back...

Yeah they should definitely specify on the description. I stopped ordering from them snakes years ago. Watering down my wife's FW cinnamon roll was unacceptable.

 

[Dave_in_OK]

Agreed !! If they are adding water I'm going to be P!$$ed off !! I was thinking maybe it was a little bit of PG ?? Water is unacceptable and I will be calling CS first thing Monday.. I will report back...

If they say it's Nicotine in 100% VG base then that is what it had better be.

 

[JeremyR]

Well many will add water.. It doesn't have pg so they say 100vg... I thought wizard labs VG nic was really thin compared to what I was used to..

IMO this can affect quality and storage oxidation

 

[puffon]

I am certain that I'm very impressed with Nic-select and I bought it DI to the shortage over at NN but I'm glad cause it's better then NN and every bit as good as VT !!

Why do you think it's better than NN.
I'm trying to decide on my next purchase.
Thanks

 

[cjb313]

@puffon I thought NN last batch was a tid bit astringent but what got me feeling ticked off was how quickly it oxidized on me compared to the VT Nic I Had in the same conditions for twice as long..
So I figured I'd try Nic-select and I was absolutely not even thinking it was going to be better but it was !! It certainly was NOT watered down like ECX and it was spot on for a perfect TH without any discernible odor or pepper taste..
I love VT Nic but it's pricy and so that's why I split my orders up.. I also liked that it had a tiny pink tinge to the Nic-select and it really makes great juices.. All in all I think that it's tied for 1st place with VT Nic but what puts it over the top is that it's less money..

As for ECX I'm going to complain because it's not cool to false advertise and plus I have no clue what percent DW is present and lastly I don't want my juices watered down !! I'm Going to try and see what can be done about it because I feel like I've been mislead into buying something that's not what it states it is.. In the end it's a priceless lesson and I will stick to buying Nic-select, VT or if in need maybe NN LoL !!
It's just not cool to screw folks like ECX did to me or gosh know how many others !!!

 

[AlphaX]

@puffon I thought NN last batch was a tid bit astringent but what got me feeling ticked off was how quickly it oxidized on me compared to the VT Nic I Had in the same conditions for twice as long..

I've heard that from a few others about NN before too. Do you think its just that batch? or is it kind of noticeable with all their stuff? I've got 500ml of NN 48mg that I threw in the freezer for storage, I haven't touched it yet. The only other NN I've used was a sample I requested that was only 15ml, so that went to fast to notice anything.

Good to hear about VT nic though, that VT TH is my favorite by a mile.

 

[aikanae1]

I'm glad Nic Select is tasting better. It sounds like ECX adds water. No biggie. I prefer 10% in my Inawera nic base.

I've heard that several brands add up to 2% DW to their VG base nic, but I'm not sure who or how much. The reason was the same, "mixability". I thought that was the standard.

 

[Jimi D.]

I've heard that several brands add up to 2% DW to their VG base nic, but I'm not sure who or how much. The reason was the same, "mixability". I thought that was the standard.

Each vendor is different. My Chemnovatic VG nic base contains no water. Best bet is to contact the vendor before ordering.

 

[JeremyR]

I've heard that several brands add up to 2% DW to their VG base nic, but I'm not sure who or how much. The reason was the same, "mixability". I thought that was the standard.

Good ones only add 2%, bad ones up to 20.. I had figured how much water was in WL, it was posted here last year. I think it was 10%, will have to look back

Water in nic will reduce its storage time! Cause it to spoil quicker ime.. Hence my wizard labs nic now smells bad.

Edit -

Well found the email I sent them, they claim no water.. I call bs because it was not that thick at all.. They may not add water but i bet the VG base they buy is already cut with water... You can find VG " for vaping" and its precut to thin it down.

May 17, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Enquiry Jeremy


Hi I was wondering if your vg is cut with water?
It seems much thinner than what I've used in the past.
If not why is it thinner?
I need to know the percentage for my mixing.

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for your interest in Wizard Labs. No, our VG is not cut with water. The difference in consistency could be due to a different manufacturer you may have been using. Please email back with any additional questions or concerns.

Sincerely,
Timmon Hall II
Wizard Labs

 

[squee]

VT nic also has DW added - 5%. I know because I asked last year LOL

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...quid-eu-nicotine-now-ecf-50.html#post14283871

 

[michaelsil1]

VT nic also has DW added - 5%. I know because I asked last year LOL

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...quid-eu-nicotine-now-ecf-50.html#post14283871

I think that was only the VG Nic

 

[JeremyR]

Yes only the VG nic of course.

 

[Kurt]

VT nic also has DW added - 5%. I know because I asked last year LOL

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...quid-eu-nicotine-now-ecf-50.html#post14283871

The VT VG "Pepper" I got in the Fall had 12% water, given on the label. Now its called Throat Hit, is thicker, and I don't doubt it is 5% water, but I think in general it would be very helpful to DIYers if vendors put the %water on the label.

 

[beckdg]

And in the descriptions on their sites. Better to make an informed choice than make a choice, then become informed.

Tapatyped

 

[cjb313]

You guys are spot on.. They should just list it !!
So.. I called ECX and spoke to Patti their CS supervisor and she actually swore there wasn't No DW in what I got !!
Hmm.. Now I get why when I asked for the batch test info she said they don't have that and all she had was a MSDS. Really ??
Well that's it for ECX never will I go to them again..
I will stick to the devil I know than the one I don't LoL !!
Seriously I'm going to keep with Kevin (VT) cause he honest..
And Nic-select cause of I had to give an award to most improved it would hands down go to them cause their product is as good as VT (just different)..
Lesson learned...

 

[Rossum]

So.. I called ECX and spoke to Patti their CS supervisor and she actually swore there wasn't No DW in what I got !!
Hmm.. Now I get why when I asked for the batch test info she said they don't have that and all she had was a MSDS. Really ??

SMH. Vendors selling DIY supplies shouldn't be that clueless.

I think everyone who orders nic base in straight VG from now on should ask the vendor: "Do you use water to thin the VG, and if so, how much?"

 

[aikanae1]

I assumed they added water to VG because it wasn't mixable without it. That's how it was explained to me (don't remember who, a long time ago). With additions between 2% - 20% is unacceptable when they must assume the majority of their product will be used in DIY. Enough with the assumptions. Do they also add water to PG?

I wonder if we can get a clear statement, on the record, for;

WL
NN
VT-TH
VT-reg
RTS
MFS
NS (Nicselect)
Heartland (code?)
Chemovac (code?)
VZ
ECX
any other suppliers?

 

[Dave_in_OK]

If someone buys VG Nicotine that contains DW then stores that Nicotine in the freezer what effect will that have on the Nicotine mixture? I ask because as we all know VG doesn't freeze but water does so is the nicotine mixture when returned to room temperature in need of mixing? Or due to VG properties is the water reabsorbed?

 

[Rossum]

Water freezers but a mixture of water and VG (or PG) won't. Both VG and PG have good "antifreeze" properties when mixed with water.