Nicotine Comparisons
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Yes, I tried a sample and thought it was good (vaped unflavored).
Didn't order any, as I have too much nic already tho.
I've had my sample sitting here for quite a while now, but haven't tried it yet. I've just recently started DIY and haven't gotten around to it.
1,3-Propanediol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What are the differences (negatives/positives) between using "1,3-propanediol" versus PG?
I have an allergy to pg and this is different enough not to trigger my allergy. It carries flavor as well as pg and vaporizes with vg well (unlike dw). In general, I think variety can be good.
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Wondering the difference from a chemists point of view.
If you look at the molecule placement, and then check it out here: Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, while it has the same exact chemical composition of C3H8O2, the way they're combined is different.
The low flash point of the PDO caught my attention (80C/175F). I liked the anecdotal feedback I have been reading (absence of dry-mouth, fast blending) and was starting to think about PDO's potential as a complete base replacement (I hate PG dry-mouth, and high VG can make my chest gurgle a bit if I chain vape for any length of time). But when I saw the flash point I wondered if there was maximum "safe" percentage? (And yes; I did see the autoignition point is 400C/752F which remains above "normal" vaping operational range.)
I know some on here have bought the new nic offering from Heartland. Just curious how one would compare it to Vapers Tek premium? Or nude nicotine if you haven't tried vt?
0mg base is available to use for mixing - not sure though what the storage needs are for that. might be the same as pg with a decent shelf life
will try the free sample and take it from there!
I found it to wick well, vape well, and it didn't dry me out as much as PG. Maybe a touch more drying than VG. However, I didn't like the taste it had, and I found it to be a bit heavy in the lungs compared to my typical VG/water juices. I only vaped it unflavored with some nic. Had a slight plastic taste I did not care for.
Chemically it is similar to PG, but the OH groups are on the first and third carbons, rather than the first and second carbons with PG. VG has OH groups on all three carbons. PDO has been around vaping to a limited extent for a couple years, first being used by 5 Pawns.
Another issue is that it is typically made from genetically modified E. Coli and corn oil. I would not call it all-natural. Maybe more natural than PG, which is synthesized from petroleum, if that really matters for USP-grade PG. Normally corn oil would produce VG, as would any vegetable oil or animal fat, since these are triglycerides and can thus only make a triol. But the GM E. Coli hydrolyzes the corn oil triglyceride and removes the center OH, and replaces it with an H.
It seems to be as safe as PG or VG for inhalation, but, of course, we don't have long-term inhalation data as yet. But there are no glaring safety issues that I am aware of. Seems pretty benign.
Chemically it is similar to PG, but the OH groups are on the first and third carbons, rather than the first and second carbons with PG. VG has OH groups on all three carbons. PDO has been around vaping to a limited extent for a couple years, first being used by 5 Pawns.
Another issue is that it is typically made from genetically modified E. Coli and corn oil. I would not call it all-natural. Maybe more natural than PG, which is synthesized from petroleum, if that really matters for USP-grade PG. Normally corn oil would produce VG, as would any vegetable oil or animal fat, since these are triglycerides and can thus only make a triol. But the GM E. Coli hydrolyzes the corn oil triglyceride and removes the center OH, and replaces it with an H.
It seems to be as safe as PG or VG for inhalation, but, of course, we don't have long-term inhalation data as yet. But there are no glaring safety issues that I am aware of. Seems pretty benign.
I know a lot of "natural" products like Tom's toothpaste and Burts Bees are using it, "petroleum free".
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I just noticed the sell it separate. $15/liter plus shipping.
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Heartland premium is chemovac. Isn't that what VT premium is?
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