How exactly is a car anything like those other places, this is Arizona, people don't drive around with their windows open in the summer.
It is an attack on vaping because they included vaping in the ban, even though vaping and smoking are two completely different things. I was listing off other places that they are trying to ban vaping, based on current smoking bans.
The government always uses children to pull on the heartstrings of the population of sheep to get what they want...this opens the door to the cop saying "they looked under 18 so I pulled him over which then led to [insert here]" it creates a reason to pull someone over which then can lead to a whole bunch of made up civil infractions or legit civil infractions that they would normally not even care about and let you go which then increases the money they can squeeze out of you...they don't care about kids as much as they try to make you believe otherwise...honestly it's $50 the first time then $100 every time after...not that bad considering some 5 over tickets are like $120+ depending on where you are pulled over
You wanna chip in for an Indepandant study with some other people? Only way your going to get the link seeing as they only release botched studies like the over powered CE5 carto in the New England medical journal I mentioned earlier
You have a point...the problem is they pick and choose what to publish and how to headline it and the people presenting their case against vaping pick those ones and only present the data that seems damning when it is presented at face value and only partial results which then makes the people we are trying to get vapers and smokers in a different category from each other to subconsciously make up their mind and ignore the vapor point of view because "the study said it was worse than smoking"
Unfortunately that is true. It's an uphill battle. That's why it's important to get involved. Join CASAA, respond to the calls to action, show up at council meetings if you can, write letters to legislators, and vote.
I am already part of CASAA and I'm trying to do what I can. It's quite discouraging when your getting hit from all sides including vapers who don't give a .... and are just in it cause it's "the cool thing to do this week"
Why not look for another one? He already got you in the right direction
That sounds like there are no studies backing people's claim there is "no significant risk"
As lessifer had responded to that there is valid information within them saying no significant risks if you look...what I was getting at was if you want it to spell it out and be legit and not another case of "here's $X to give me this result"
