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Not happy with my REO these days :(

Discussion in 'Reos Mods' started by patsfan1130, Mar 24, 2014.

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  1. patsfan1130

    patsfan1130 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2012
    Boston
    So a couple of weeks ago I noticed my RM2 was not performing very well (Would take upwards of 6 or 7 seconds for the coil to heat up and give me a decent vape). So I re coiled it (1.3 ohm using 28g kanthal. With a brand new coil I still experienced the same issue. So I completely broke it down and cleaned it (warm water, a bit of dish soap and a toothbruth)..This did not fix my problem..My next move was to give both the RM2 and my REO an ultrasonic bath. Still having the issue :/

    I just got done installing the replacement kit Rob sells and I am STILL experiencing a long delay in heating the coil!! It's not the atomizer. If I throw it on any of my other mods (regulated and mechanical it fires up like a dream)

    I'm at a loss here. For kicks I went back to a 1.7 shorty carto and it isn't firing it as it once did...I've got to hold the button for 6 or 7 seconds to get it to perform. I've replaced everthing I can...

    Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? I'm likely going to have to send it in to Rob in the hopes he can find an issue with it. There is only so many things it could be and as far as I know I've replaced em all.
     
  2. patrao_n

    patrao_n Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2013
    United States
    Have you checked the battery by swapping it out? Also look on the battery thats in there. Is there little black marks on the top? If so file it and put a little noalox on it. I had a similar problem. And it was the oxidation and sparking that caused it for me. Goodluck

    Sent from my SM-N900T
     
  3. InTheClouds

    InTheClouds Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2013
    Murphy, NC, USA
    ^^^^ What Patrao_n said, if everything else has been replaced it would suggest to me it is the battery, did you put Noalox on the new firing pin? The other thing it could be is maybe the connector pin in the Reo where the RM2 connects has somehow gotten pushed down a tad where it is not getting a good connection.
     
  4. Matthew Bye

    Matthew Bye Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    try scratching up tip/connection point with sand paper or emery cloth. you may hit the spring contact point also. my guess is this will be your problem.
     
  5. NicLiq

    NicLiq Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2011
    Twin Cities, MN
  6. rc10mike

    rc10mike Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2012
    Jacksonville, FL
    Sounds like your batteries or charger are the problem.
     
  7. Rhapsodies Fire

    Rhapsodies Fire ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 18, 2010
    Bow, WA, USA
  8. ancient puffer

    ancient puffer EX PV Collector Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Mar 8, 2011
    Virginia, USA
    ETA: You got some good suggestions to try while I was typing all this :) But if those fail, try this-->

    Just my 2 cents, not being an electrical engineer or anything :) You mentioned the coil is 1.3 ohms. Have you measured it while it's installed on the REO (with a multimeter), as opposed to on a separate tester? I'd check that first. (For example, if you've overtightened the atty at some point, forcing the 510 connector down too far, you may get a good connection on some PV's but not others). If that also reads 1.3 ohms, then it's time to do some detective work.

    If you're confident that you know what should and should not be connected, then you could test resistance, in tiny steps from the tip of the firing pin, to the spring, and so on, eliminating each component as being the cause until you find it. None of the individual components you test should show significant resistance. (For those who don't know, resistance measures between ZERO, i.e., a good connection...all the way up to infinity, i.e., a dead short or no connection at all.)

    To give you an idea of what you're looking for, on my grand, I show (for example) the same resistance between the screw that holds the spring in and one post of the atty, that I get when I measure between the two posts of the atty (there may be some difference, but my meter only measures to the nearest .1 ohm). If you see something that seems too high, it probably is and you've isolated the problem.

    Once you know where the problem is, then you can figure out what's wrong and/or how to fix it.
     
  9. Funk Dracula

    Funk Dracula Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 7, 2013
    Earth
    You bought and installed this kit?

    http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?p...&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9

    I'm stumped a bit. There are only a couple parts that make up the Grand. Hollow 510 pin, 510 insulator, firing plate, tube connector, spring.

    Did you replace the spring? I know it might be tempting to skip that part if it looks fine...

    Even in a new Grand, the spring is the point at which the most voltage drop takes place. If you didn't replace the spring, perhaps it is semi-collapsed or compromised, which will make that voltage drop very noticeable.
     
  10. Robinowitz

    Robinowitz Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 27, 2013
    No. Cal.
    I was having a similar problem that I just fixed. The metal connector (firing pin) on mine has always been nearly flush to the black (plastic?) thingy inside. Sometimes when I scuffed up the metal part it was impossible not to hit the black thingy as well. After doing all the regular cleaning maintenance tonight, I used a small knife and gently (very gently) separated the metal away from the black thingy which enabled it to make contact with the battery easier. Hope this makes sense and hope it helps.
     
  11. oplholik

    oplholik Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    One thing I've found that livens mine up a bit, is to take the screw that holds the spring out, clean it and apply noalox to the threads. That can make a difference.
     
  12. Filthy-Beast

    Filthy-Beast Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 14, 2011
    Chicago
    Do you have a volt meter, we could use it to test voltage at different locations. This would allow use find the issue quickly.
     
  13. thinkingaboutit

    thinkingaboutit Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 13, 2012
    mn
    Speaking from experience...I suck at maintenance. That's why I have a pile of reos.

    The problem I noticed, when I let one firing pin get too ugly, it leaves problems with the battery as mentioned above. Putting it in a new reo I sometimes still have to spin the battery a little.


    Yea...I know...I get busy dammit. And lazy.
     
  14. patsfan1130

    patsfan1130 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2012
    Boston
    Great suggestions all! Thank you Just to answer some questions...

    I used the repair kit Rob sells and replaced everything it came with (gasket, contact, tube and spring) I followed along with his video and it all went together without a hitch. I thought it may be old batteries or my chargers as well. But I tried brand new AW IMR that test @ 4.2v fresh off a charge. Noalax...no, I did not, have not used it in a long time. I will try that. I do not own a volt meter. Maybe I'll run to the store this afternoon and grab one.

    Thanks again everyone!
     
  15. taki1203

    taki1203 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2013
    NorCal
    Gonna second the checking the connection between the Reo and whatever atty you're using.
     
  16. oplholik

    oplholik Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    AH HA! There it is. I will bet Noalox will help. :)
     
  17. tmel

    tmel Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2013
    Denver, CO
    Try a lower ohm coil, 0.8-1 ohms, 8 wraps of 28 1/16 should do it...
     
  18. Raynman

    Raynman Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Marion In USA
    Sounds like a good filing and Noalox are in order. The higher ohms you use delayed this from happening for a few weeks as opposed to a couple of weeks with a subohm coil
    Sorry tmel but lower ohm coil will cause this to happen more often. It will give a boost to flavor and vaper production.
     
  19. Robinowitz

    Robinowitz Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 27, 2013
    No. Cal.
    So true Rayn! I cooked my button (the inner part) when running .9 to 1.2. I got away with it for a while, but my luck ran out yesterday. Am anxiously awaiting a new kit now :)

    Actually, i just got an email from Rob and my button got cooked because of a short.
     
  20. Robinowitz

    Robinowitz Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 27, 2013
    No. Cal.
    Thanks Puffer for posting this! I've been using my multimeter for checking coils and am wanting to learn how to check resistance in other areas. Can you break it down a bit more please? I assume the battery is in ( thought I would check, cause you know about assuming...). Also, do I always keep a probe on one of the posts while I check (please fill in blank) with the other probe.

    Appreciate it!
     
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