NY Assembly budget bill taxes e-liquid at $.40/ml, bans workplace vaping

[Bill Godshall]

NY Governor Cuomo’s budget bill (A 3009B) is far worse than previously reported;
See Part FF (Page 49)
New York State Assembly | Bill Search and Legislative Information
- Would impose $.40/ml tax on ALL e-liquid products (i.e. a $48 tax on a 120ml bottle),
- Impose increasing fines on any person caught (without tax receipts) possessing or transporting >500ml of e-liquid and any distributor caught (without tax receipts) possessing or transporting >100ml of e-liquid,
- Would redefine smoking to include vaping to ban vaping where smoking is banned, and
- Reduce the premium cigar tax from 75% of wholesale price to $.45/cigar.

After NY State Health Commissioner Zucker sent a letter to all MDs in NY that grossly misrepresents the evidence on vapor products and urges their support for Gov. Cuomo’s proposed $.10/ml tax on e-liquid, R Street sends letter responding to Zucker .
Concerned healthcare providers respond to New York Department of Health Commissioner’s remarks on e-cigarettes | R Street

New York State Vapor Association (and others) respond to NY Health Cmsnr Zucker (3/17/17)
Response to NYS Health Commissioner Zucker regarding e-cigarettes

NY Gov Cuomo congratulates NY Health Dept for the sharp decline in NY youth cigarette smoking (that was largely due to vaping) and demonizes lifesaving vapor products; NY Health Cmsnr Zucker falsely claims vaping is gateway to cigarettes, advocates Cuomo’s proposed $10/ml e-liquid tax (that is far worse than Zucker claimed)
New York State Department of Health (via Public) / Governor Cuomo Announces Record Low Youth Smoking Rate in New York

Mike Siegel: NY State Department of Health urges physicians to discourage patients from quitting unless they use Big Pharma products and tells vapers they might as well go back to smoking
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: New York State Department of Health Urges Physicians to Discourage Patients from Quitting Unless They Use Big Pharma Products and Tells Vapers They Might as Well Go Back to Smoking

NY Conservative Party: Block Tax on E-cigarettes
Conservative Party: Block Tax On E-Cigarettes

In January, Gov. Cuomo proposed reducing the 75% premium cigar tax to $.45/cigar
New York Governor Calls for Cigar Tax Cut | halfwheel
https://www.budget.ny.gov/pubs/executive/eBudget1718/financialPlan/FinPlan.pdf

 

[CarolT]

I don't suppose the sleazy crawlers hope to buy support from well-to-do interests by reducing the premium cigar tax.

 

[defdock]

just.... WOW....

 

[pianoguy]

Loony-toons.

 

[BackDoc]

We think it's bad now,Just wait til Hillary becomes governor

 

[sofarsogood]

40 cents. Well here is how it works. Make a law that's garranteed to create a black market then law enforcement skims off some of the money in return for looking the other way. it's a time tested way to pay police, easier than raising money from law abiding tax payers to pay them.

Let's see, I vape 5 ml per day x 365 = 1,825 ml x 1.1 cents diy = $20.07 Now let's add the tax. 1825 x 40 cents = $730. Hmm...a $730 tax on 20 bucks worth of e liquid? The smugglers probably all voted for the governor. They know where their bread is buttered.

 

[Verb]

40 cents. Well here is how it works. Make a law that's garranteed to create a black market then law enforcement skims off some of the money in return for looking the other way. it's a time tested way to pay police, easier than raising money from law abiding tax payers to pay them.

Let's see, I vape 5 ml per day x 365 = 1,825 ml x 1.1 cents diy = $20.07 Now let's add the tax. 1825 x 40 cents = $730. Hmm...a $730 tax on 20 bucks worth of e liquid? The smugglers probably all voted for the governor. They know where their bread is buttered.

Same thing with Mexican drug trafficking into the US. It has been difficult to convince Americans to increase aid to Mexico lately. But, permit the flow of narcotics and the cartels provide social services for the people. Cooperation is needed on both sides of the border to reduce the flow. So, if the US actually wants to reduce aid, Mexico has a built in way to subsidize the shortage.

 

[zoiDman]

Pop Quiz.

What happens when you Jack Up the Tax on something like Cigarettes too much?

Spoiler: Answer

60% of cigarettes sold in New York are smuggled: report

But this could Never happen to e-Liquids. Right?

 

[DrMA]

I've been seeing increased anti-vaping chatter from NY cells of the TobaccoConTrol terror network. Now it all makes sense

 

[Whiskeywarrior]

Wtf. All of the government needs to be replaced when something like this is even a thought in their empty greedy littlehead's.