If you google this - you come up with beautiful European models and Cars...
I think both of you are crazy if you see beautiful European models and cars. I googled it myself and that's not what I'm seeing.
I'm serious. Where are the cars?
Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5
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I'm serious. Where are the cars?
I've been 'keeping an ear' to that thread since it started. Mike Petro is a fine guy and knows what he's doing, IMO. He's on to something ... and always admits he is not trying to say vaping isn't way, way better than smoking. He's just trying to see if it can be safer.
Seems the original study, that kicked off the thread, determined that bad stuff happens to VG at temps exceeding 450 F. The test was done in some kind of chamber not at all like vaping. Mike's testing (all donated time and quite some expense) has shown that it's easy for coils to hit that temperature even at low volts / watt settings depending on the atty being used. Many of the tootle puffer set ups reach those temps.
The outstanding question that can't be answered from his testing is ... how much bad stuff is being produced just because the coil reached that 'critical' temp. Did the VG also reach it?
Mike has pretty much proven coils can easily reach 450F and beyond even at low 'settings'. He also admits he doesn't know what that means in terms of 'bad stuff' being released into the vapor we're inhaling. He has no way to test/measure that. His approach is if you want to be safe and not be concerned about the reports findings keep you coil at or below 450F.
Well geez ... sorry to send you guys on a wild goose chase ... or not.
It's actually a JAC Series B (not Model B).
And, if any is being produced, how does it compare to the same "stuff" in combust tobacco and paper?
I don't suppose any of us think vaping is 100% safe. Just orders of magnitude less UNsafe than smoking. Heck, the air in most big cities is a carcinogen, haven't yet heard the FDA recommend we stop breathing.
Hopefully we've dodged dat 'bullet'...
Highly recommend our porchers watch da full vid by our ECF KURT!!!
When they do these studies - I truly wish they would consider questions like this - The ones that actually relate to us... There are so many configurations - there is no way to test them all I know, but let's make the testing mimic real vaping as much as possible...
As I recall the original test, showed 3 carcinogens at higher levels then smoke from a cigarette.
Exactly! I'll give Kudo's to Mike Petro. Not only did he test the atty's he uses, he's done his testing on many atty's / PV combo's sent to him from other ECF members to broaden the data he's been gathering.
@Iffy ... did you ever get your $20 K1's? I emailed Avail w/ respect to exchanging mine with the sticky fire button. They replied promptly that they no longer carry the K1 and I could get credit toward purchasing another mod from them.
I declined as since adding tiny drops of silicone around the button my issue had resolved.
I declined as since adding tiny drops of silicone around the button my issue had resolved.
Not yet, Mike. TBH, my 'plate' has been of Thanksgiving proportions; two funerals, Tahoe blown head gasket, 'nother Patty 'issue', etc.
I do need to check my CC account and see if I actually got my order in. Just too flippin' whooped to give a damn at this point...
BUT, thanx fer askin'!
I'll say your plate is full ... best wishes buddy that thing pickup real soon for you.
Gee, sounds like several trials have come your way
When it rains, it pours as the old saying goes..... I hope things will start looking up for you.
Checked my CC account. Apparently my order didn't get processed. Dat just means I wasn't meant to add to my cache...
Yep, just means you got funds for a future purchase. Now start looking.
Otay, just guide me to da sub buck Nautilus heads...
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