The difference in years does make a tremendous difference. However, what makes the biggest difference to me is that the American Council on Science and Health says publicly that they care about "keeping a harm reduction and smoking cessation tool available to smokers who want to quit."
Me too! At least!
that's wonderful if they'll pay attn to it!
2legsshrt and bigbells are your TC people.....and legs has been investigating the DNA 200 but I think decided against it, I'm not sure
I'm not searching for something better... just .. different. My whole vape life has included mastering something new...direct dripping on attys, carto tanks, VV, (I did manage to skip VW) building coils, building for a genesis, getting the (insert cuss work) kayfun to wick consistently, squonking. I'm bored I guess. Maybe I'm ready to take on a new challenge. I'm trying to stay away and be content but just as soon as I decide to stay where I'm at, I find myself watching youtube videos on TC and looking at TC devices and posting all this about it
But I do understand if someone wants to play with new toys. As they say, if it feels good, do it. I'm sure you will find all kinds of help here.
This isn't great news, but it may be good news: ACSH Invited to White House to Advise on Tobacco Harm Reduction - American Council on Science and Health
Here's their recommendation to Mr. Obama:
"The regulatory assessment on small businesses, and the cost-benefit analysis, are separate issues that OMB is considering. We instead care about keeping a harm reduction and smoking cessation tool available to smokers who want to quit. So our specific recommendation was that the “substantial equivalence” date — the date at which products could be allowed to continue to exist without going through new regulatory review — be changed from early 2007 to the date that OIRA puts its stamp on the new regulations."
Perhaps this will make folks feel at least a little bit better ...
ETA: if it doesn't make you feel a little bit better, please don't shoot the messenger!
Who, knows, maybe they will convert him. High-stress job, pleasing Michelle, and all that.
that was 6 hours... and I didn't even NOTICE until I took the time to sit down.
yepper definitely freedom.
also not shooting the messenger...Noper, no shooting da messenger here. BUT, I'm truly tired of some folk taking a big sigh of relief when we might lose only part of our vaping! It's like a mugger only taking half of your money and you're grateful. Phrack dat!!!
Said it before and I'll continue to say it, I'll go 'underground'/'under table' (aka, at my age, da gray market) if or when it becomes necessary.
I appreciate your perspective, Iffy. I am doing all that I can to preserve our rights, as I know you are. But the truth is, I AM grateful. I'm grateful that a group of scientists -- real scientists, as opposed to those who have a read a handful of bogus studies and formed an opinion worthy of the proverbial man in the diner -- stood up and expressed a contrary point of view. I'm hopeful that more will follow.Noper, no shooting da messenger here. BUT, I'm truly tired of some folk taking a big sigh of relief when we might lose only part of our vaping! It's like a mugger only taking half of your money and you're grateful. Phrack dat!!!
Said it before and I'll continue to say it, I'll go 'underground'/'under table' (aka, at my age, da gray market) if or when it becomes necessary.
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It not only shouldn't be sin-taxed or over-regulated, it should be made as freely available as possible! Insurance should pay for it. And, the government should have B&Ms where people could come and try out different things to see what works for them, for free.
That's me. It's more the hand to mouth than the Nic.
LOL! I forgot to click the over 18 box & it sent me to a Disney website! That is just too funny!
I've become a TC user because from the get-go, I liked the IDEA of the technology behind it. I tried and rejected nickel coils but am happy with titanium and stainless steel 304 coils. The Cloupor GT PV I use the most was designed for nickel coils but I've been able to make it work well with both titanium and stainless steel 304 by using untrue temperature settings and adjusting the power via the variable joules setting.I'm not searching for something better... just .. different. My whole vape life has included mastering something new...direct dripping on attys, carto tanks, VV, (I did manage to skip VW) building coils, building for a genesis, getting the (insert cuss work) kayfun to wick consistently, squonking. I'm bored I guess. Maybe I'm ready to take on a new challenge. I'm trying to stay away and be content but just as soon as I decide to stay where I'm at, I find myself watching youtube videos on TC and looking at TC devices and posting all this about it
Lung cancer is like that. By the time symptoms show it's pretty far along. I was extremely lucky to have such an early detection. If I hadn't had other breathing issues I really believe I would be close to death now instead of almost 4 years cancer free. Another 18 months of Semi annual (every 6 months) screening then it's annually. Can't wait.
I am absolutely certain that if it didn't effect the tobacco settlement money and big pharma/tobacco profits they wouldn't have even taken notice of vaping. You know somebody had to tell em about it and I'm sure it wasn't some do gooder but rather some tobacco exec over a catered lunch...
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