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Discussion in 'VV/VW APV Discussion' started by DummyDoc, Oct 11, 2017.

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  1. DummyDoc

    DummyDoc New Member

    Oct 11, 2017
    With all of the regulations that seem to be hitting every state, has there been any thought to an open source device that could be used for different things and "may have" the ability to use some type of vaporizer? I think one could be on the way. I stumbled across this blog and I have to admit, it looks interesting. Has anyone else seen or heard of anything like this? The "Lone Wolf" Graphic Arts Technologist: OSM 1 becomes Open Source Power (OSP)
     
  2. Walee

    Walee Senior Member

    Oct 6, 2017
  3. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Texas
    Everyone who claims that they've discovered the next best thing to get around the Deeming Regulations all forget that one little catch all phrase that shoots the idea down before it gets off the ground.

    Intended use.

    Doesn't matter if it has other uses. If it can be used for vaping, it falls under the guise of the FDA.
     
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  4. DummyDoc

    DummyDoc New Member

    Oct 11, 2017

    Very true, but keep in mind, this looks to be open source, i.e., the end user would purchase the parts that are commercially available from a few different electronics parts websites and could build this themselves. Since it appears to be programmable, it can be used for anything. Is this a "loophole"? I'm not sure, but it does look interesting.
     
  5. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Texas
    Nope. Not a loophole. Again, that all encompassing phrase kicks in. And as it has a 510 connector, you're going to have a very hard time convincing anyone that it's intended for something completely different other than vaping. Especially as that blog is in the public and he's already stating he's using this thing for vaping.
     
  6. OlderNDirt

    OlderNDirt Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 8, 2014
    Nebraska
    I just couldn't figure out which "like" option would really fit, so will just go with.......

    I can't disagree at all, but have to wonder just where that line can be drawn? Mods, tanks, coils, juice, nicotine, etc.... of course. Batteries, wire, cotton, flavoring, etc.....hardly. Can they even consider scales, syringes, beakers, bottles, etc......one would think impossible!

    While it seems simple, cut and dried, exactly where will they draw (or try to) that line? I can only hope that the further the powers that be try to push it, more of "we the people" will recognize and reject an over-powering government.
     
  7. ScottP

    ScottP Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    I still don't see how the FDA can legally regulate mods and tanks. They do NOT contain, NOR are they made from any food, drug, or tobacco product. The same goes for pipes which they are also pushing these same regulations on despite them not being made with or containing any tobacco. We really need to push back on the hardware side of things.

    I will say that if anything, mods being electronics, might be better handled by UL instead of the FDA.
     
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  8. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Seems that the FDA will be leaving the OTHER vaping industry alone (for now), they don't use tobacco, nicotine, nor tobacco products. But we have many technologies in common.

    The enemy of my enemy IS my friend.
    cheers
    I
     
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  9. puffon

    puffon Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    The Villages, FL
    If it's sold in a vape shop, yes it is deemed a tobacco product, even screws and o-rings.
     
  10. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Out of the entire deeming, the only "bright" spot might be this:
    nonicliq.JPG

    So, imo, the EU/UK model, nic shots and 0 nic "doublers", are the future.


    Cheers
    I
     
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  11. ScottP

    ScottP Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    So by that definition shops that sell branded clothing, caps, and such those products are also considered tobacco products? That is completely ludicrous.
     
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  12. OlderNDirt

    OlderNDirt Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 8, 2014
    Nebraska
    All the more reason society as a whole needs to recognize government overstepping its authority.
     
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