PG/VG Sensitivity/Allergies

Discussion in 'Health, Safety and Vaping' started by Chief-A-Lot, Sep 20, 2009.

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Do you have issues with E-Liquids??

  1. PG (Due to several issues with Using VG)

  2. VG (Due to several issues with Using PG)

  3. PG/VG (I don’t have any issues that I noticed with either)

  4. PG/VG (I wanted to become a Vapor, but neither agree with my body =()

  5. Other (Not sure what this would be, but if you choose this please be specific)

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  1. Chief-A-Lot

    Chief-A-Lot Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

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    Hey Guys! I started this poll because of reading and posting in several threads about the "Why is this happening to me" when I first started Vaping. Some people don't start having certain reactions for several weeks after they start vaping, while others have reactions within the first few minutes to a few hours. Let’s hear your take on what liquids you prefer (PG/VG) and why?

    For me, PG has become a no and I use only VG after I noticed feeling not so comfortable several weeks into vaping. I know that there are many variables involved when you stop smoking cigarettes, but I switched to VG for over a month and was good to go, then switched back to PG for a couple days and noticed the same type of discomfort by mid-afternoon on the second day. I switched back to VG that evening and everything returned back to normal and has remained that way since...

    Thanks!
    Chief
     
  2. Chief-A-Lot

    Chief-A-Lot Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

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    Wow! I would have figured more were concerned/affected/interested in this topic...:confused:
     
  3. oldtechno

    oldtechno Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Chief;

    I just now saw you post. But it doesn't matter, I've had no ill effects--well, except for that one we all get when we've had too much nicotine...another fast run for the bathroom!

    bye.
     
  4. darkmatter22

    darkmatter22 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    i dont have any problems with e liquid
     
  5. Denise

    Denise Full Member

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    I was concerned that PG wasn't good for me due to itching, hives and a breakout of bumps on my face - not acne, just strange... 3 weeks into vaping without a single analog. Now, it seems I have no allergies to either PG or VG.

    Needed to drink more water than usual, less Captain Morgan with Coke or Dr. Pepper! Caffeine, plus nicotine and PG/VG will dehydrate more than one would think.

    Strange, lucid dreams are fine - and, about all I had initially from probably too much nicotine. A friend was who mentioned that minor side effect.

    What made you decide that PG isn't good for you Chief?
     
  6. Chief-A-Lot

    Chief-A-Lot Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

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    I think I stated it in my OP, but I was very achey and was having anxiety attacks like every other day (wich I have only had a few in my whole life, and it seems those were linked to smoking certian things... and eatting certian things like maybe chinese food with msg). Also, I was feeling very floaty headed sorta disconnected feeling that was hard to shake... tightness... might have actually been raising my BP... Not exactly sure what it was doing, but after my tests on myself switching over to VG for a month striaght and then giving PG another go, I found that VG does none of the things to me that I mentioned with PG...
     
  7. unknwn

    unknwn Senior Member

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    PG sensitivity for me.
    My Very first experience yielded a monster headache that lasted for MANY hours. Any subsequent exposure to predominantly PG based fluids leaves me with ulcers inside my lip area.
    When I reduce exposure to PG, all symptoms (the previously mentioned (2) were not the only ones either) stop within a day or so.
    I have had reoccurrence each time that I mess with pre-filled carts.
    I have opted for JC low-PG juices from the beginning of my vaping history and have been relatively comfortable with this decision.
    One other problem that I have with juices, is a definate reaction to recipes that are rife with vanillan flavoring.
    I wish this was not the case since I enjoyed the taste of Tennessee Cured, but I have learned through repeated attempts that this is problematic for me.
     
  8. Denise

    Denise Full Member

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    OK, Great. Good to know. Never really thought I was allergic to much, except Wool. Too many energy drinks in one day will also cause one of my eyelids to twitch! lol

    I may prefer VG anyway since trying ECOpure and others. Less chemicals, harmful or not, makes sense.

    New here as far as posting (see now that you can read a history of member posts). Nice of you to take a poll for any who are concerned about possible side effects.

    Everyone is different, and I would hate too many negative or paranoid people adding to worries that the FDA has already caused.
     
  9. bigozone

    bigozone Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    i think i managed to vote correctly,

    i'm also trying to stay away from PG for the same reasons and symptoms as the OP.
    so far i seem to be much more tolerant of the VG.

    p.s. it's nice to know i'm not the only one who has lucid dreams that seem to coincide with vaping.
     
  10. ferretlovr

    ferretlovr Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Too much PG has a laxative effect on me. :shock: It's too bad there aren't more suppliers with lower PG juice like JC.
     
  11. span

    span Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I haven't had much in the ways of problems using pg, although I've been sneezing quite a bit... but once I cut the liquid with a little vg that symptom went down to almost nothing. Think the pg dried out my mucus membranes a little too much, resulting in the sneezing. At first, vaping made me really gassy, but that went away after a week or so. And I was getting headaches from using too much nicotine, but cutting down my 24mg to 12 fixed that right away too.
    I'm interested in using both types of juice though.. I've heard good things about ecopure. Chief- what's your fav vg-based juice? All I've done with vg so far is a little at home mixing...
     
  12. Jasmine

    Jasmine Full Member ECF Veteran

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    I chose other. I started with pg and due to Fibromyalsia, had really bad muscle cramps which I was somewhat expecting after reading the forums and others responses because they used to be so bad they broke the blood vessels in the back of my calves years ago when I was first diagnosed with Fibro, so switched to vg. Was fine on that for about a month and then started having ear problems, severe headaches, diarrhea and then vomitting but wanted it to work so badly, I kept vaping to try and get through it. After a few days, I had to give up on that. Went back to analogs for a few days while I researched more. Then I started taking malic acid/magnesium for the muscle cramps and started back on the pg. So far so good and smoke free for 10 days. Tried going back to the vg a couple days ago and the ear problems and headache started within 2 hours; back to pg.
     
  13. souporvapor

    souporvapor Super Member ECF Veteran

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    so I guess I must be really slooooowww

    Your title - 'Do you have issues with E-liquids'
    then you ask us to check one...

    PG (due to issues with VG)
    VG (due to issues with PG)

    I have issues with VG - but if I check the VG box it claims I have issues with PG
    If I check the box PG(have issues with VG)
    then I've answered the initial/title of the poll 'wrong'

    (it does not say what do you vape.... and then go on to offer choices -
    so please help a silly girl out here..... I don'ts knows hows to answers the question)


    BTW - This vaper is not VG friendly...

    Thank You





    Hmmmmmm
     
  14. McElveny

    McElveny New Member

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    I'm a newbie, totally new to this. Can someone tell me what you mean by VG and PG? I've had throat irritation since I started using the e-cig 3 days ago. It sounds like people have more issues with PG than VG, but I don't even know what those are. Help!
     
  15. MaxUT

    MaxUT Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    VG is Vegetable Glycerin.
    PG is Propylene Glycol.

    Both belong to the alcohol family. Most e-liquids are presently PG-based but it seems that VG liquids are becoming more popular.
     
  16. McElveny

    McElveny New Member

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    Thanks, MaxUT. I've been looking at VG options, looks as though I will need to purchase the juice and learn to load my own cartridges. I think it's worth the effort, I have allergy issues and I think the PG is playing into those.
     
  17. MaxUT

    MaxUT Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    You might try cignot.com for VG liquids.
    Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.

    I noticed they have a selection of VG flavors now (other than ECOpure) and the prices are good on these. Looks like they're all 26mg strength though, and all are tobacco, clove or menthol, no fruit flavors.
     
  18. Chief-A-Lot

    Chief-A-Lot Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

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    LOL! I know, but after I made the poll I had no idea how to change it... You didnt have to call me out like that :p! JK... I was hoping nobody noticed.
     
  19. souporvapor

    souporvapor Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Hey Chief...
    it's all good.
    Just want my 'vote' to say what I mean....

    thank you for trying - I have no clue how to change a poll either.
    My vote:
    I can only tolerate PG

    Thanks again - and Blsssssngs,
    Kathy
     
  20. Kamanjah

    Kamanjah Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah, kinda hard to decide there! I use mostly VG because of fibromyalgia.

    @Jasmine - malic acid/magnesium is a must for fibro peeps. Add 10mg manganese too, that's my 'fibro cocktail.' I use the Slow Mag magnesium because of better bioavailability. PG does make my legs cramp too, the switch to VG surely helped me out.
     
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