That's what I get for not checking.
I posted to a FB group there were only 58 comments (along with extended deadline). Oh well.Serves 'em right (maybe) if they have a guilty conscience.
FDA Please submit your comments to FDA re: #vaping witch trials
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That's what I get for not checking.
I posted to a FB group there were only 58 comments (along with extended deadline). Oh well.Serves 'em right (maybe) if they have a guilty conscience.
While I am more than willing to rally to the cause, I have to admit that I personally am quite a bit confused at how all of this works. As a vaper that never smoked cigarettes, I have to wonder about the weight of my statement to the FDA and just what I would say as a "recreational use" vaper. My wife on the other hand has quit smoking after 40 years or so of light to moderate cigarette smoking due to e-cigarette use for which I am both proud and elated for her but at the same time feel that she should make her own statement to the cause. The links to information about submitting a statement to the FDA docket are numerous and as I said previously, somewhat confusing. Therefore I submit this suggestion to the moderators of this forum to please simplify this process and make it as easy to find and participate in as the ongoing survey is. I say this in sincere hopes that the 58 current docket submissions mentioned by DrMA in the first post would increase exponentially.
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Graywoulf, why don't you simply comment on how proud and happy you are that your wife quit a long standing smoking habit by vaping? If we don't speak up, the anti smoking zealots will be the loudest voices.
Make sure you throw in some science like research is showing that there are no dangers from second hand vape
Graywoulf, why don't you simply comment on how proud and happy you are that your wife quit a long standing smoking habit by vaping? If we don't speak up, the anti smoking zealots will be the loudest voices.
Make sure you throw in some science like research is showing that there are no dangers from second hand vape
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Frankly, I agree that even if we were to get 1,000,000,000 comments from the 'consumer' group it will make zero difference to the powers that be. They will divvy up the money however they desire. Meanwhile, if the worst should come to pass, we will have another Prohibition-like black market booming before long...
*hate being such a cynic, but there ya go...
Frankly, I agree that even if we were to get 1,000,000,000 comments from the 'consumer' group it will make zero difference to the powers that be. They will divvy up the money however they desire. Meanwhile, if the worst should come to pass, we will have another Prohibition-like black market booming before long...
*hate being such a cynic, but there ya go...
"Black market"? If the FDA regulations go through and a Black Market is created, is that not suppose to be allowed/prevented under its charter?
The FDA has been tasked to take into consideration the effect any regulations will have on black markets."Black market"? If the FDA regulations go through and a Black Market is created, is that not suppose to be allowed/prevented under its charter?
What effect that will have on their final regulations is open for debate.
The FDA has been tasked to take into consideration the effect any regulations will have on black markets.
What effect that will have on their final regulations is open for debate.
An excellent topic for a comment to the FDA Docket!
Hey, DrMA. Did mention in my last comment to FDA that this 70 yr old was going to turn to black market if their onerous regs went through. Then the state can take care of me in the "slammer".
Then the state can take care of me in the "slammer". 
Hey, DrMA. Did mention in my last comment to FDA that this 70 yr old was going to turn to black market if their onerous regs went through.
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I would respectfully request an adjoining cell next to YOU.
/lolYep, those of us who lived and participated (/lol) in the flower child days of the 60's should always insert our age in our advocacy with the FDA, CDC, State and local desk killers. To some extent, this "counters" how the media and regulators portray the vaping culture: a bunch of "hipsters", all of whom blow huge clouds. Note the pictures they use in articles. Or, when was the last time you saw a picture of a "Senior" vaping in the media? No offence intended or inferred to the younger generation. We are ALL brothers and sisters!
Thank you, SeniorBoy! 
Unfortuately never had enough money or time to participate in any of those demostrations. Too busy making rent money and raising my first born.......but I did have a supply of love beads and tie dyes for my off hours! Now, my kids are grown and long gone and have plenty of time to raise a ruckus!......Got to find me some energy though.
Think Vaping Militia (not sure right one) is putting out poster like posts with pics of various individuals of all ages giving short vaping bios. Really good stuff. Anyone can add to them. There's a template to help. I saw some on "We are CASAA".
Always wondered what it would be like to be locked up. Love reading.
Unfortuately never had enough money or time to participate in any of those demostrations. Too busy making rent money and raising my first born.......but I did have a supply of love beads and tie dyes for my off hours! Now, my kids are grown and long gone and have plenty of time to raise a ruckus!......Got to find me some energy though. Think Vaping Militia (not sure right one) is putting out poster like posts with pics of various individuals of all ages giving short vaping bios. Really good stuff.
Anyone can add to them. There's a template to help. I saw some on "We are CASAA". Always wondered what it would be like to be locked up. Love reading.
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Here's what I sent with a copy of Clive Bates presentation
"Comment: I am so appalled by the actions being taken by our "Medical Community" that any trust I've had in you folks is gone.
I see now that all of the "Government Bodies" that are trusted with guiding this Once Great nation have become Slave to Big Business and MONEY. You "People" are, by your actions, harming Millions of the people you are sworn to protect for GREED AND POWER.
Vaping has been a god sent for me, a 43 year Pack a day smoker. I have not had/wanted a cigarette in nearly 2 years. And my Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law were both heaver smokers than I, have also not smoked since I introduced them to vaping soon after I quit smoking. The regulations proposed by this PROHIBITION that you've proposed would bring harm to us and well would cause our return to smoking or obtaining vaping supplies through 'Other Means'. An outcome that anyone thinking in terms of 'Helping' would find Unspeakable. So if there is a molecule of human decency left within your GREED, POWER, And MONEY HUNGRY conscience. Please reconsider your actions.
The whole "Government" of this Once Great Country is being put at risk by folks just like you."
Here's what I sent with a copy of Clive Bates presentation
"Comment: I am so appalled by the actions being taken by our "Medical Community" that any trust I've had in you folks is gone.
I see now that all of the "Government Bodies" that are trusted with guiding this Once Great nation have become Slave to Big Business and MONEY. You "People" are, by your actions, harming Millions of the people you are sworn to protect for GREED AND POWER.
Vaping has been a god sent for me, a 43 year Pack a day smoker. I have not had/wanted a cigarette in nearly 2 years. And my Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law were both heaver smokers than I, have also not smoked since I introduced them to vaping soon after I quit smoking. The regulations proposed by this PROHIBITION that you've proposed would bring harm to us and well would cause our return to smoking or obtaining vaping supplies through 'Other Means'. An outcome that anyone thinking in terms of 'Helping' would find Unspeakable. So if there is a molecule of human decency left within your GREED, POWER, And MONEY HUNGRY conscience. Please reconsider your actions.
The whole "Government" of this Once Great Country is being put at risk by folks just like you."
I personally don't think there will be that much of a black market.
So I'm certainly not the right guy to put forth such an argument to the FDA.
I nominate Jman8 to write the comment.
sorry to hear you gave up the fight, Kent
Hopefully, he is just tired and frustrated and not disheartened.
I definitely did include the Prohibition and Black Market alternatives in my comment.
*for all the good it will do...shari grumbles and bumbles back to her vape...
*for all the good it will do...shari grumbles and bumbles back to her vape...
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