Protank 2 - How many flavor wicks are you removing?

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  1. roasted

    roasted Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I ask this question because I have had some issues with my Protank 1 and 2. It got to the point I began using Novas and carto tanks because, well, they were the only things that worked and would retain my sanity. I received the Protank 2 a few days ago and almost immediately (within the first half dozen vapes) I was tasting an awful burning taste. I popped out one of the flavor wicks, and it helped, but it did not entirely solve the problem. Out of frustration, I googled around and came up to a GrimmGreen video. He mentioned he just takes all of the wicks out from the beginning and afterwards speaks highly of his experiences with the Protank. As a result, I removed all of the wicks. So far, things are considerably better. The only 'wick' I have in place is the one wrapped in the coil, so I really have no 'flavor wicks' installed in my current head at all.

    The liquid I am using is an 80/20 mix. Through countless sources online it's suggested that the amount of wicks you remove should be dictated upon the thickness of your liquid. Considering I am using an 80/20 mix, it doesn't really stand to reason that my juice is thick enough to warrant removing all of the flavor wicks.

    Once I removed all of the flavor wicks, I had some gurgling, but after a few minutes of vaping that went away. Likewise, I sat my PV upright on the table and left it alone for an hour. I came back, lit it up, no gurgling at all. Once the initial batch of gurgling that lasted 2-3 minutes was over, I have not experienced any more of it since removing the flavor wicks, nor have I experienced any leaking.

    So anyway, this kind of got me wondering... As I said my liquid is 80/20, so it's not exactly like honey where you would think removing all of the wicks makes sense. Yet with the 80/20 liquid, removing all wicks is the only thing that kept me from throwing this thing in the trash. In fact, it's been quite good since then. Considering all of this, especially the fact that my gurgling went away after a few minutes and hasn't since returned, I got to wondering what other users here are doing.

    So, Protank 1 and 2 users, what are you doing and what have your experiences been like? Do you remove 1 flavor wick? Do you remove both (all) flavor wicks? Have you experienced any leaking or gurgling (after the initial start) as a result? Mentioning your liquid PG/VG ratio would be helpful as well.

    :D
     
  2. Aphro

    Aphro Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    80/20 vg/pg, or pg/vg
     
  3. gmoney$

    gmoney$ Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The debate rages about removing flavor wicks or not. I run about 80PG/20VG also, and have tried alot of configurations. No flavor wick works best. A little gurgle now and then? Just shows your gonna get a saturated vape, IMO. I still try leaving one or all flavor wicks on new coils, and I always come back to leaving them out. Apparently your mileage WILL vary
     
  4. haproot

    haproot Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Running grimms very own Namberjuice 50/50. And I've actually had some trouble.. Gets burny quick, but if I remove a *single* flavor wick it floods almost immediately. I've only really played with one head though so maybe it was a dud to begin with.

    I rebuilt it and it is still pretty finicky. 10 wrap 5/64 id 30g coil with 3mm wick and a few flavor wicks (they are tiny, made with strands from the 3mm. I believe it is silica rope. From Rtd vapor.) I'm still trying to get it to wick right.. Funny thing is my Evod is not nearly as picky, but Im using a T3s head I rebuilt in that.

    I'm still playing with it, but the protank 2 seems to be more finicky for some reason.
     
  5. pufZeppelin

    pufZeppelin Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    talking about Kanger bcc (I have protanks and evods)
    high in VG (because PG irritates me) 80/20 70/30 VG/PG -- (eGo with 1.8Ω to 2.2Ω coils)

    my thoughts are you need the flavor wicks (or supply wicks)
    in order to keep a wet supply of juice ON THE HEATING COIL, that in turn reduces burning the heating coil IMO
    so I am opposite of what you guys are thinking, if fact I use big fat 3mm wick on top to promote Heavy Wicking
    and it works GREAT for me--no gurgling and I Vape my tanks down to empty

    :)
     
  6. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Agreed.

    Mistake number one seems to be trying to run these things too hot. I put a coil in last week that metered 2.0 ohms and it was producing tons of vapor at a whopping... 3.2 volts. After running it for three days heavy use my voltage is all the way up to... 3.6 volts. I don't even buy 1.8 ohm coils any more - they get too hot, too fast.

    Because some people insist on running these things at high voltages - just because they can - they take out the wicks to get more liquid to the coil. And then you risk flooding the coil with too much liquid and vapor production actually goes down, not up. Then they up the voltage even more to compensate and "burnt & nasty" sets it. And it's still flooding...

    If anything, I've had to tweak the top wicks and add to it in some cases. I've never had a good result taking any of it out.

    What am I vaping? 100 VG only - and the thick gloppy stuff at that.

    Never start a new coil on these Kangers above 3.2 volts. Adjust up if needed, but don't be surprised if even a 2.0 coil actually works very well at 3.2 volts.
     
  7. Wow1420

    Wow1420 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    PT1 #1 - 50/50, removed 1 flavor wick, gurgles if the liquid level gets low
    PT1 #2 - all VG, removed both flavor wicks, still didn't wick right, rebuilt head with 3mm silica and now it works OK.
    PT2 - 50/50, left the wicks alone - perfect right out of the box
     
  8. Aphro

    Aphro Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Has anyone tried flipping the silicone gasket on the head upside down to expose more of the wicks? Just read about someone having success with that method... I'll have to give that a try next refill.

    Do you still get metallic aftertaste even after cleaning?
     
  9. mightymen

    mightymen La Résistance ECF Veteran

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    It all depends on your VG get around 75% VG no need for flavor wicks.

    More VG the less gurgle your get.
     
  10. haproot

    haproot Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Having better luck, pulled a couple more strands of the "flavor" wick and also the wick in the coil. Again I'm using 3mm silica from rtd vapor. And I am also keeping the power below 4 volts.

    Another thing that seems to help is using it on an ego threaded device with the beauty ring snugged up against the base. Tightens up the draw a little but I believe it is allowing more of a vacuum in the air passage to facilitate better wicking.
     
  11. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Speaking of flavor wicks on the Kangers. Does anyone know what size each wick is and what's it's made of? BTW today I took a flavor wick of my PT Mini II and so far it hasn't changed much of anything.
     
  12. mimifromnc

    mimifromnc Full Member

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    When I dry burn, I replace the wicks with a wee little bit of cotton ball rolled into a wick fashion. I have an EVOD and it leaks if no flavor wicks are in place. The cotton works for me so maybe it will help you.
     
  13. AlterUrEgo

    AlterUrEgo Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I use a 1mm silica flavor wick for my T3's and protanks but I also rebuild all my heads with 2mm hollow ekowool. I found the stock kanger flavor wicks too short and thin and they either fall in or don't plug up the gap between the stem cap and top of the coil wick. Cutoff the wicking off a old top coil atty and trim to fit if you don't have any silica onhand. My T3's or protanks don't leak or gurgle at all.
    A lot of people throw away their heads cause of burn't taste when all you might need to do is change the flavor wick especially if they are still the stock flavor wicks your using.
     
  14. Krazirob

    Krazirob Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I use 50/50 and only have one 1mm flavor wick in my pro tanks. The coil I make 2mm


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  15. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes, I have heard cotton used before, but as strange as it seems I can't find a post which actually explains what a flavor wick is made from, unless it is some form of cotton.
     
  16. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Are you saying the flavor wicks are made from silica? Thanks
     
  17. VIPOD

    VIPOD Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The factory flavour wick is silica. By replacing the silica with cotton flavour wicks is that you get a richer taste, and the cotton is not surrounded by the coil, thus it's less likely to burn, which cotton will if not sufficiently moist. I always throw out the factory flavour silica wick, wash the coil, and replace the flavour wick with 2mm cotton string.
     
  18. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thank you, but one last question and that is where do you find 2mm cotton string? The reason I ask is when doing a search cotton waxed 2mm string shows up.
     
  19. VIPOD

    VIPOD Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I have a local ecig supplier that sells the cotton string, however you can purchase it at arts and crafts stores (Michael's, Jo-Ann, even Walmart probably). The key is to get 100% cotton, non-bleached. Even at that, I normally boil my strings and let them dry just in case.

    Something like this:
    Simply Cotton Organic Sport Yarn - 100% organic cotton Sport Knitting Yarn, Crochet Yarn and Roving
     
  20. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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