Provari vs Mech

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  1. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    Hello,

    I would like to know what is the advantage of a mech/hybrid has over the Provari? Besides the nice construction and the fact that it has no electronics?

    Thank you.
     
  2. CASEACE79

    CASEACE79 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The biggest advantage a hybrid or mech mod with a genny atomizer is that you can build low ohm coils. I prefer 28g kanthal as it has a larger surface area to heat the juice. In order not to get an E1 or E2 error you need an 8/7 wrap which is just redicilous. The downside is the voltage drop off after awhile. Your vape gets weaker and weaker as the battery drains. Some mods and hybrids can accommodate a kick to regulate the wattage but I have found that 10 watts is just not enough for how "I" vape. I emphasized the "I" because others do use the kick with them.
     
  3. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    What is the minimum ohm supported by the Provari?
     
  4. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    like 1.1 or1.2 something right around 1 ohm i think, i have accidentally run 1.3 ohm coils on it, when i was tired and thought it said 1.8. the only problem is if something happens along the way and creates a situation where the coil drops a little more you could be stuck with an E1.
    otherwise a mech is probably the only mod that is more durable then a provari.
    and its not like a 2 ohm coil is going to vape so much less then a lower/thicker coil. its just more efficient electrical wise to go lower.

    i want a mech just to have one to play with, but i wouldnt give up my proV for it.
     
  5. justinred

    justinred Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    With a hybrid you are stuck with the genesis atty on it. With full mech you are stuck with low resistance coil attys. With provari vv, you can slap anything you want on it. If this is going to be your first apv, provari is recommended.
     
  6. jimmyh

    jimmyh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I own a mechanical. That being said, they are 2 entirely different beast. Other than a battery they really have nothing in common. I can put anything on my mechanical that I want also. They will vape differently. My YJ vv will vape different than my Legacy. If you use a kick with a mechanical, that would be a better comparison. Some mechanicals have a lifetime warranty.
     
  7. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    I already have a zmax and evic... and is looking to add either a provari or a mech that supports the kick... any recommendation ?
     
  8. CASEACE79

    CASEACE79 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    One of the other differences is that when a mech mod doesn't fire it can only be a handful of things that could be wrong. Almost anything that fails is readily avail at lowes or home depot. Also you can wash a mech mod. No wires means as long as you dry everything off before firing you're good. Keep in mind that You asked what was better about a mech mod. I could argue the other side of the coin too. Is this a should I get a mech or provari? Or is it more of a why are all these people getting these mech mods when vv mods are available?


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  9. justinred

    justinred Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Since you already have a vv/vw apv, getting a kick would be redundant, also the kick is expensive and shortens battery life. If you decide on a full mech, instead of a kick, get a good rba and learn to build coils to your preference.
     
  10. CASEACE79

    CASEACE79 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I agree Justin. Loving my Poldiac and DID.
     
  11. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    Yes maybe that is a more correct question, " should I get a mech or provari?" I am also currently using a Cobra RBA and UDCT.
     
  12. Huejazz

    Huejazz Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I love my provari with my z-atty-pro.... It's nice to be able to adjust my voltage to my coil for the perfect vape even off a not so perfect coil
     
  13. justinred

    justinred Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Maybe the question should be, "Why do I still lust for a Provari even though I already have an evic and a zmax?" :D
     
  14. sawlight

    sawlight Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I disagree with this, being an "oldie" with a BB, I've managed to vape rather well with 2-3 ohm atty's on it. Not a "true" mechanical, but close enough.

    I agree with this. Yes, RBA's add a lot of flexibility to a mechanical, but they certainly aren't the "last word" to be used on them as seems to be the norm around here anymore! Yes, LR produces better on them, but you don't need that, and you don't need a Kick to make them function. Anything around 2 ohms will work, and work rather well on them.

    I own the BB as a back up, and it's a remarkable back up! I have a Provari mini as my daily driver, then I have a tin mod that runs on one 18650 as my "night on the town" PV. Yes, the battery does drop off, which doesn't happen with the ProV. But I can make any of them work well, and satisfactorily.
    So do you want "simplistic elegance" that "just works", the mechanical that I can respect?
    Or adjust ability to make what you have suit your needs at the time, the Provari?
    Both can and will do the job, don't buy into the hype either way. It's a matter of what's going to work for you, in the way you want it to work! Are you going to always be able to get the atty's you want from "that vendor" to keep the mechanical happy? If so, go mechanical. Really want to experience the true joy that a Genesis can give? Mechanical.
    Want to buy whatever you can get your hands on and vape? Provari.
    Want to play with RBA's and not worry if it's right or wrong and have the built in protection cover your butt? Provari.
    I don't know how to make it much more simple than that!
     
  15. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    Can you please elaborate on what you meant by this please?

    " Really want to experience the true joy that a Genesis can give? Mechanical."
     
  16. darthkir

    darthkir Senior Member

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    Ahh you got me there!
     
  17. justinred

    justinred Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Seriously, can you vape a 3ohm atty when battery voltage drops to 3.4? Can it even produce vapor at less than 4 watts?
     
  18. kiwivap

    kiwivap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You have two devices with vv already - so if want another vv device then get a Provari. If you want to try something different to vv get a mechanical. If you really can't decide get both.
     
  19. sawlight

    sawlight Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Seriously, it's what we had to do sometimes "way back when". It's not the best for sure, but it's about what Blu is doing. I'm certainly great full to not HAVE TO now days.
     
  20. sawlight

    sawlight Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Basically, it's like the Purists dream, simplicity at it's finest. If you look at the high end mods, the Zenisis, IHybird, NGP etc., this is all they are. A simple mechanical mod, with a Genesis atomizer on it. These are beloved for the simplicity. Much like an audio purists, they forgo all the lights, bells whistles, etc. and go straight for the simple tube amp.
     
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