Putting a tank on a tube mech mod..

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I've heard a lot of people advice against this, i've got the authentic tugboat, put on the artic tank to test it out and it worked just fine. I only tested it because I don't want anything blowing up in my face.. But are tanks a no no to put on any sort of tube or copper mech mods? And if so why? I'm still learning a lot so please go easy on me if this is something I should have none, been vaping for about 6 months. So far in my collection I have the M80 by SMOK 80 watt VW box mod, the IPV4, the tugboat, and the nemesis. As for attys I only have the artic tank at .2 ohm coils and the Turbo RDA by TOBECO. I'm looking into getting a new RDA because this RDA has sucked so far. Thinking about getting the Mutation X V4.
 

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As long as your coils are .6 ohms or under it should be fine. The reason regulated mods are better with tanks is because you get a consistent vape, as the battery dies on a mechanical mod vapor production will vary.

Yes I figured that... usually always have a battery charging in one in use. I just can't wait to put the new mutation on my box mod or the tugboat.. Do you think the MutationX V4 will put out more cloud production than my artic tank? Cheers man.
 

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The problem with using a subΩ clearomizer (like the Arctic) on a hybrid top cap mech mod is that the center pin is not adjustable and does not stick out far enough to be consider safe. Even if it works right now, over time the center pin can get pushed up or the battery becomes dented and the battery vents.

Hybrid Top Caps & Battery Failure
 

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depending on the tank you plan to use, build the coil to work best with the tank chosen ( be it a Kayfun or a subtank) if you go to the subtank realm, build the coil that will be safe for the batteries amp rating, too many people make their builds to close to the maximum amp rating for their batteries ( ohms law is important here)...

a bit of an analogy here... you have a car with a manual transmission... you put it in first gear and floor it, the car jumps forward quickly but the engine redlines at 20 mph... you put the car in 5th gear and you slowly engage the clutch, the car eventually moves forward but eventually you get up to speed... a low ohm coil is like first gear and a hi ohm coil is like 5th gear
when you get to 20 mph in 5th the engine is barely going above idle... but in the 1st gear, the engine is about to throw a rod :)
 

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The problem with using a subΩ clearomizer (like the Arctic) on a hybrid top cap mech mod is that the center pin is not adjustable and does not stick out far enough to be consider safe. Even if it works right now, over time the center pin can get pushed up or the battery becomes dented and the battery vents.

Hybrid Top Caps & Battery Failure
Okay cheers man, thank you. Watching your video now and very informative, was actually already subscribed to your page! awesome man. Even if its not you, the video helped. Thanks!
 
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depending on the tank you plan to use, build the coil to work best with the tank chosen ( be it a Kayfun or a subtank) if you go to the subtank realm, build the coil that will be safe for the batteries amp rating, too many people make their builds to close to the maximum amp rating for their batteries ( ohms law is important here)...

a bit of an analogy here... you have a car with a manual transmission... you put it in first gear and floor it, the car jumps forward quickly but the engine redlines at 20 mph... you put the car in 5th gear and you slowly engage the clutch, the car eventually moves forward but eventually you get up to speed... a low ohm coil is like first gear and a hi ohm coil is like 5th gear
when you get to 20 mph in 5th the engine is barely going above idle... but in the 1st gear, the engine is about to throw a rod :)

That puts it into terms I can understand and relate it to a bit more, very helpful!
 

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ahhhh now I see where your question is going... is it safe to put a tank on a hybrid mech... depends on the tank, some tanks are made for hybrid use, for example... the Aqua V2 is hybrid type of tank... I use my Aqua in hybrid mode on my Overdose...

I thought you were concerned about coil differences and higher ohm ratings and batteries
 

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There's no difference between a coil and wick in a tank on a mech vs any other atomizer on a mech as far as suitability is concerned. Just don't use a coil made for TC. Beyond that you can use whatever you want, sub ohm or above. You are however bound by Ohms law to determine the warmth of the vape since you can't up the voltage to increase power, and you need to be safety aware if pushing low ohms. I grabbed a Poldiac just for that reason. They have a collapsible spring that collapses with a short. I tested it. It works.

I use the following in the above and swap batteries when the vape cools. Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
 

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I've heard a lot of people advice against this, i've got the authentic tugboat, put on the artic tank to test it out and it worked just fine. I only tested it because I don't want anything blowing up in my face.. But are tanks a no no to put on any sort of tube or copper mech mods? And if so why? I'm still learning a lot so please go easy on me if this is something I should have none, been vaping for about 6 months. So far in my collection I have the M80 by SMOK 80 watt VW box mod, the IPV4, the tugboat, and the nemesis. As for attys I only have the artic tank at .2 ohm coils and the Turbo RDA by TOBECO. I'm looking into getting a new RDA because this RDA has sucked so far. Thinking about getting the Mutation X V4.


There is no reason to worry bout putting a tank on a mech mod. Mech mods are built for tanks,RDAs, RBAS, or whatever you want.

As long as you understand mech mods, you should have no problem. Remember, mech mods aren't protected like reg
 

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huh?? .6 or under? and why cant I use my 1.2 ohm coil on a mech???

how does 14 W at 3.4 A @ 4.2V become an issue for a mech?

Since you can't change the wattage/voltage on a mech mod, the quality of the vape from high ohms starts to decline. There are no safety issues with using HIGH ohm coils, but definitely performance issues for using them on a mech.
 

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    Since you can't change the wattage/voltage on a mech mod, the quality of the vape from high ohms starts to decline. There are no safety issues with using HIGH ohm coils, but definitely performance issues for using them on a mech.

    Funny ............. I've been using 2 ohm coils on a mechanical for years.
    Actually high ohm coils have far LESS performance issues on a mech mod.

    2 ohms @ 4v = 2 amps ..... an 18490 battery will last all day
    .2 ohms @ 4v = 20 amps ... a 18650 battery will last 2 hours

    The issue with the OP's Tugboat mechanical mod is the lack of a center pin (hybrid top cap), NOT the fact that it's a mechanical.
    You CAN use a tank on a mechanical mod, PROVIDED that it's top cap has a center pin!!!!
     
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    huh?? .6 or under? and why cant I use my 1.2 ohm coil on a mech???

    how does 14 W at 3.4 A @ 4.2V become an issue for a mech?
    You can put any resistance atty/tank you want on a tube mech mod. Except for very low resistance like .2 ohms or below for instance becuase you may draw too much current from your battery and cause disastrous results. You can vape a 2.5 ohm Evod fine on a tube mech mod and it will vape pretty much just like on an Ego battery. It is all a matter of ohms law. Battery voltage vs coil resistance..

    one caveat, if a hybrid style mech mod your 510 pin MUST protrude nicely beyond the 510 threads on the base of the atty/tank.
    If they do not you will likely get a very nasty surprise which may be hazardous to your health. As in an explosion in your hand or next to your face.

    personally I do not think that hybrid style mech mods should be sold.
     

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    Funny ............. I've been using 2 ohm coils on a mechanical for years.
    Actually high ohm coils have far LESS performance issues on a mech mod.

    2 ohms @ 4v = 2 amps ..... an 18490 battery will last all day
    .2 ohms @ 4v = 20 amps ... a 18650 battery will last 2 hours

    The issue with the OP's Tugboat mechanical mod is the lack of a center pin (hybrid top cap), NOT the fact that it's a mechanical.
    You CAN use a tank on a mechanical mod, PROVIDED that it's top cap has a center pin!!!!



    I didn't know his mod is a hybrid. TOTALLY different ball game.

    In fact, one of the mods that exploded in the past year was DUE to a guy putting a tank on a hybrid mod.
     
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