After browsing thru this thread & others I pulled the trigger on an OSDIY order. Very nice to deal with. So far I mixed up the Cinnamon Roll & RJ4. The cinnamon is absolutely fantastic after a 3 day steep, & I can see the RJ4 being an adv. The RJ is a bit more "vanilla-y" than any RY4 I've tried & it's very enjoyable