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RDA RDA Round-Table Discussion and Lookout

Discussion in 'RDA' started by Mr.Mann, Jul 11, 2015.

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  1. Sed8op8

    Sed8op8 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 6, 2016
    Its a great little RDA but its made in china and I have heard the clones are just as good if not better quality in some cases. It really depends on you and what you feel comfortable with. I get a great vape from the hadaly but if your not using it on a sqounker then I don't think its worth it as it is a fairly small juice well and you would be dripping constantly. Great flavor easy to use build deck and great as a bottom fed atty
     
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  2. jhhollier

    jhhollier Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    It's my favorite restricted airflow/flavor atty. I've got three authentics and was tempted to get another cause of the sale but I decided to wait and pick up a Goon LP next week.

    Great flavor, easy to build, accessories available, bottom fed ready out of the box, reasonably priced even when not on sale and easy to acquire. What's not to like?
     
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  3. Visualabstrakt

    Visualabstrakt Full Member Verified Member

    Feb 3, 2015
    Thanks for the advice all. I just placed my order. Excited about that. I too ordered the goon lp also. Currently using the o-atty for my single coil atty but still wanted to try the hadaly. Spent way too much than i wanted this year and there's still more stuff i want. Hows that apocalypse gen 2 treating you?
     
  4. Uncletattoowhat

    Uncletattoowhat Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 21, 2014
    Poquoson, VA
    I recently picked up the Recoil RDA for myself for Christmas and my god its a great flavor atty (for my needs).

    I, too, am anxiously awaiting payday to try to get my hands on a Goon LP. A friend of mine told me that there are some on FastTech that are authentics that were made by a company who had the blueprints directly from 528, but used some different materials instead of the ones specified by the originators. supposedly they are "authentics" but not because of the materials. I picked one up so we'll see next month how it is.
     
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  5. RickCain

    RickCain Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2013
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Got my LP today (fast as heck shipping) and after one build I am in love. A breeze to build, flavor is on point and looks killer. For what you get @ $75 I'm impressed.

    Btw: not even a rinse and zero oils taste, yeah!

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  6. Khanninnarh

    Khanninnarh Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2016
    I just got one last week and I'm impressed. But had to use an Alien Clapton 0.45 Ohms at 35 watts in there to make it vape the way I like. A warm vape.

    Initially, I was using a 26g SS316L round wire in there at 0.6 ohms firing at about 25 watts. The vape was just too cool for me. Anything higher like 30 or more I got a burnt taste. Could not pull more than 2 times.

    At first I thought it was the cotton. But it was not the cotton. It was the ends of the wire burning up and giving off fumes.

    Lastly, removing one O Ring makes putting on the top cap much easier.

    Does anyone have the same problem?

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  7. Mr.Mann

    Mr.Mann Visit the PIF Sub-Forum Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 30, 2011
    All over the place
    I doubt it is the RDA per se. I don't work with SS wire, but my thinking is that it has something to do with the particular nature of the wire (and maybe how it's wrapped? Maybe how solid the connection is?).

    That would not be a fun vape, I know that much!

    I am interested to see what the answer is to that issue.
     
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  8. kformeck

    kformeck Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2015
    Try wrapping your coil in the other direction so the leads go down into the well instead of sitting on top.

    At first, it seems like this is the way to build it but I'm in a group on FB that goes deep into the science behind what goes on inside atomizers and it was agreed upon that the leads should go down, not straight across.

    The main reason is because with the leads down, your exposing as much of the coil as possible to airflow which would keep those hot legs cooler. Also, when wicked, the cotton will make contact with more of the lead surface also keeping the heat on them down.

    I'm almost 100% sure it's not the wire, it's the build. Kanthal would do the exact same thing in this scenario, it just may take an extra second or so for the legs glow hot like that due to the slower ramp up.

    Try my suggestion out and if you still have issues, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you get this problem resolved.

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  9. muzichead

    muzichead Resident Knucklehead Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 7, 2011
    Illinois
    I would venture to guess that somewhere on the underside of that coil there are a couple wraps that are either touching or are just too close together. Kinda like how coils were a pain to get the hot legs worked out of them when using mesh wicking... I don't miss those days at all!!
     
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  10. kformeck

    kformeck Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2015
    On mesh, a hot wrap can be caused by either a short (definitely not happening in this pic because we can see that the far leg isn't touching anything) or the wrap not making contact with the mesh.

    I believe what's going on is those legs are too long and not making contact with the wick so they have no way of being cooled down as fast as the rest of the coil. Wrapping in the other direction so the leads go down into the well should fix that issue.

    I used to have hot leg issues on my veritas and I always fixed it by shortening my leads.

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  11. Khanninnarh

    Khanninnarh Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2016
    Hi. The Alien Clapton is definitely wrapped the other way just like u suggested and it's working fine. I'm sure it's not the atty.

    I'll try wrapping a SS wIre the other way when this coil I'm using wears out.

    And thanks for the reply everyone.


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  12. kformeck

    kformeck Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2015
    Awesome, I'm glad you got things sorted out

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  13. Joeteboe

    Joeteboe Full Member

    Dec 31, 2016

    Yes I've had similar issues with mine. Hot legs. I don't get them all the time but once in a while my coils will go from perfect firing to melting the legs. And yes horrid burning taste after a fresh drip
     
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  14. Khanninnarh

    Khanninnarh Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2016
    Check the post above. The coils work better the other way around.


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  15. muzichead

    muzichead Resident Knucklehead Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 7, 2011
    Illinois
    So you can tell by looking at that pic that none of the coils are touching, or close to touching on the bottom side of the coil? I need a new pair of glasses it would seem. Not wanting to argue or anything of the nature, was merely a suggestion. I only used the mesh reference as an example. I had the same problem regardless of wicking when I was building spaced coils. Sometimes when one coil was a little closer to another, (look closely at the middle wrap how it is not centered between the wraps on either other side of it), it just caused problems and in my experience, was exactly the same thing as his. It wasn't until I started building contact coils that hot legs weren't a problem anymore. That pic was in indication of hot legs in my experience and no amount of wicking or juice will fix it...
     
  16. WharfRat1976

    WharfRat1976 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 31, 2014
    Austin, Texas
    Great post. My Hadaly gives my Narda a run for its money. It's easier to build on too. Using a single coil, 3mmID, 316L, 7/6, spaced on both it is really hard to tell the difference as both just kill it for flavor while also providing great vapor. I will look at the other attys in the family as well.
     
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  17. ckquatt

    ckquatt Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 8, 2013
    Milledgeville, GA
    So basically it sounds like instead of fixing a hot leg issue by adjusting your build or wrapping the coil correctly you're suggesting wrapping the coil in such a way that you're using the airflow to cool the hot leg, not actually fixing the issue. They have a phrase for that! LOL!

    As an aside, I've had my authentic Hadaly for a few weeks and have had nary a problem with hot legs once with a .6 ohm Clapton contact coil.

    Here's my build that has been in for about 2 weeks and other than a wick change and dry burns one a week it's been perfect!

    BTW: Don't laugh at the Phillips head screw! I DETEST flat head screws and I soon as I find another Phillips head in my vape box I'm swapping that other screw out!!

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    ...and besides. all the "...delving into the science..." (LOL!) in the world doesn't change the fact that the makers of the Hadaly have an airflow diagram that shows how it's supposed to be set up. Jerry-rigging a coil to cool down hot legs is no solution for poor coil building.
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  18. WharfRat1976

    WharfRat1976 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 31, 2014
    Austin, Texas
  19. Visualabstrakt

    Visualabstrakt Full Member Verified Member

    Feb 3, 2015
    Im debating on picking up either an apocalypse gen 2 or the mose by mcm. Anyone with experience with these?
     
  20. jhhollier

    jhhollier Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    Just the Apocalypse Gen 2 for me. With the airflow wide open, it's about equal to the Goon 24 (if you've used that). For me, the flavor is better from the Apocalypse. It's also a lot easier to build thanks to the beveled clamp plates. You can just slide your leads in unlike with the Goon. It's pricier than the Goon 24 but worth it IMO. I'd definitely consider picking up a second. I'm also looking at the Elite Gen 2 but I'm concerned that it'll be way too airy and kill flavor.
     
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