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Reducing the nicotine level of e-liquids

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  1. gfht

    gfht Full Member

    Mar 30, 2012
    canada
    I got some e-liquid with a high nicotine level. I feel sick, and think I actually gave myself nicotine poisoning or something last night. I was getting panic attacks and felt awful.

    I paid a decent amount of money for this, and it would take two weeks for another order to arrive, so this is all I have for now.

    What I want to know is, is there anyway to dilute the e-liquid I have so that I'm ingesting a lower level of nicotine in each puff?
     
  2. Huffelpuff

    Huffelpuff Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 27, 2011
    Philadelphia Burbs
    You can dilute the nicotine juice with VG or PG or both. One of them is available at Walmart or CVS - believe that it's the PG - I'm sure someone will come along soon w/ more suggestions and information.

    May I ask what mg strength you purchased? Maybe if you post that people can make suggestions for best way to dilute. It wouldn't hurt to take a look at the DIY section for safety in handling the nicotine. It is absorbed through your skin and, at some strengths, may require some precautions on your part to avoid a repeat of your illness.

    Best of luck!
     
  3. gfht

    gfht Full Member

    Mar 30, 2012
    canada
    I choose the 25mg option when I bought it. 80/20 PG/VG.

    I don't have vegetable glycerin on hand, but I'm sure I can buy some at the health food store. Out of curiosity, would commercial vegetable oil work? Also, after i dilute it, are there any precautions for storage? Do I have to put it into a glass bottle, or will a plastic container work?

    Thanks.
     
  4. John1952

    John1952 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    United States
    Or, you can just vape less of it. Just enough to satisfy your nic addiction until the new juice arrives.

    I understand that it can be difficult to hold off, because vaping is so much more pleasurable than smoking.

    But: VEGETABLE OIL IS NOT VG!!!!
     
  5. teamscon

    teamscon Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2012
    NC
    Im having the same issue. Baught some juice that just says "medium/high" for nic level and no number.
    I am just smoking less of it until I get used to it. Luckily I have other lower juices but if I smoke too much of it I feel like crap also. Have a tad of that feeling now btw lol. Not a great feeling. Too much nic is horrible. Stuff is dangerous if you keep going I would guess.

    I HAD to start with 11mg nic for about a week, then was able to use my 18mg juice more. Sort of weird considering I smoked 1 1/2 - 2packs a day. I guess liquid nic is more potent or so. Ive never felt as sick off cigs as I did on too high of nic juice.
     
  6. X P3 Flight Engineer

    X P3 Flight Engineer Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    Moncton, N.B. Canada
    DO NOT USE ANY OIL TO DILUTE WITH!!!

    VG glycerine can be purchased at any Bulk Barn in Canada. It is with the food coloring and flavorings. (their Lorann flavorings can also be used for DIY e-juice if you wish to try that in the future).

    I understand you have 80/20 PG/VG juice that is 25mg/ml nicotine strength. If that is the case you can dilute 7 ml of your juice with 3 ml of VG to get (approx) 18mg/ml strength liquid

    or

    mix equal parts of your juice with VG to get (approx) 12mg/ml strength juice. It may be a little thick but it can be thinned if you have a problem with it.

    Take Care and Play Safe!
     
  7. AttyPops

    AttyPops Yeah, I type stuff. ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    NO!!!!!!!!!... unless by "work" you mean to kill yourself.

    And unless you're sure you have the right stuff, I'd rather see you go back to the cigs for two weeks while waiting for your order in the mail, than vape the wrong stuff. If you're ordering different juice anyway, order some PG and VG to have on hand. Do the math so you know quanties that you'll need to cut however much you have down to whatever level you want.
     
  8. bigdavid

    bigdavid Moved On

    Jun 10, 2012
    Jeffersonville Indiana
    If you buy pg or vg you need to make sure it is usp grade..........the kind you get from walmart or cvs is probably not usp grade. The non usp grade is meant for lotions etc...
     
  9. X P3 Flight Engineer

    X P3 Flight Engineer Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    Moncton, N.B. Canada
    The VG sold by Bulk Barn is food grade, the same as all the flavorings that are used in all the e-juices.

    If you have concerns about this you should only vape USP grade PG, unflavored and without nicotine, since nicotine is not a pharmaceutical and is not available in USP grade.

    Also, anything USP grade that has been re-bottled by a vendor is no longer USP grade.
     
  10. mol

    mol Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2011
    pittsburgh pa
    you can dilute using water. The downside of diluting any store bought with any suggestions here is you dilute the flavor as well.
     
  11. mol

    mol Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2011
    pittsburgh pa
    laws are different . nic is available in the states as USP pharm grade. Is for sale on the net. What I cant seam to find is PG/VG pharm grade.
     
  12. TENDERFOOT91

    TENDERFOOT91 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2012
    USA
    I had the same question on deluting juice, I got great advice. Ordered same flavor in 0 nic. Mixed the two and made my 36 mg 18 or close to it. I did a small amount ,just to get me by and the flavor really changed and not for the better. Thanks to all who helped me.
    Take Care,
    Don
     
  13. gordong11

    gordong11 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Be safe, either use less of what you have or order lower nicotine content. I was smoking about 22 cigs a day of winston lights, and now I'm using 24mg (2.4%) liquid, and it takes about 10 puffs of liquid. Don't continuously vape, vape like you would analogs in 10-12 puff increments.
     
  14. HaimBi

    HaimBi Full Member

    Jun 10, 2012
    Israel
    the water dosent kill the flavor?
     
  15. AttyPops

    AttyPops Yeah, I type stuff. ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Anything you use to dilute it will dilute the flavor too.

    Too much water will kill the vape. I'd say no more than 10% as a general rule. So the OP should get some PG or VG from an e-cig supplier. If you insist on getting it locally, make sure it's the right stuff...
     
  16. tfazio

    tfazio Full Member

    May 4, 2012
    New Mexico
    I reccommend checking into the DIY forums and read all the safety information.
    Good VG (Vegetable Glycerin) is available at most health food/herb stores.
     
  17. Mroutlaw

    Mroutlaw Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    No, you can't use vegetable oil. Go to cvs or rite aide. You will find a glycerine USB in the isle that has facial cleaners. Its in a clear 4oz bottle


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  18. dhdonline1

    dhdonline1 Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 7, 2012
    canada
    I didn't realize bulk barn carried these! Good to know!
     
  19. tooooots

    tooooots New Member

    Sep 24, 2012
    Philippines
    When you dilute your pre mixed juice with pg / vg, does it dilute the flavor too?
     
  20. X P3 Flight Engineer

    X P3 Flight Engineer Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 27, 2012
    Moncton, N.B. Canada
    Yes it does. Some people get 2 bottles of the same flavor juice, one in high nic and one with lower or no nic, so that they can adjust the nicotine content without losing flavor. I actually like subtle flavors, so I don't mind losing a little flavor sometimes.
     
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