Hello to all forum members.... I have been vaping for almost 6 years now but I have never considered vaping as a full-time hobby. Thus I usually lurk around forums when searching for opinions and soultions to the problems I have....I even had forgotten I was registered in this forum up untill now when I tried to re-register. lol.
Now that the intro is over...I'll get to my issue - question, please bare with me.
I had been vaping all these years with a rebuildable tank system which was like the old cartomizers (remember those? lol). A super tiny coil had to be placed together with silica wick inside a ceramic and all that construction inside a "tube" which would then fit in a tank of liquid
(diver v2 by Atmistique for those wanting to know). Its coils demanded non-resistance and resistance wires, was bothersome to set up, and I could only use silica wick - that was the nature of the thing. My coils usually ended up around 1.5 - 1.7 ohms and the vapor production was ok-ish but I really enjoyed the throat hit. Im was using 6mg/ml nicotine juices with 75% PG - 25 % VG. I am a strictly MTL vaper and I dont care about clouds as much as I care about throat hit with the lowest nicotine possible.
When organic cotton came, I knew at some point I'd want to "ditch" my old atomizer and the slica wicks, I dunno I just feel cotton is more suitable as material and less risky as far as what we inhale goes - plus the silica wick could never achieve the wicking properties of cotton.
So I decided to take the plunge but I faced another problem - most of current RTAs are made for lung vapers - huge airflows and huge airhole below the coil - this means, in case you havent tried, that even if you "close" the adjustable airflows in the bottom of the tanks for MTL, that the velocity of the incoming air is too low to keep the coil in a efficient temperature - what you end up with when trying to vape MTL with these tanks is a too-hot wire (coil) making the whole thing completely unsuitable to vape - you can literally taste the metal of the wire.
What I did find out though is that Kanger's Subtank was efficient enough - I could MTL with its RBA and the smallest airflow setting. BUT...I faced another problem: I completely "lost" the throat hit I used to have with my old silica wick atomizer.
To get things in perspective, I used to vape at 1.5 ohms, around 10 - 12 watts and 6mg/ml juice.....and with the Subtank I went to 0.6 ohms, 25 watts and the same liquid and even though I feel the vapor "hitting" (burning sensation) my mouth, there is absolutely no throat hit.
I thought oh well....different atomizer, thats the nature of it.
I then tried all sorts of tanks which would all fail for MTL vaping due to the reason I explained above (I understood later) and then I ended up, after a lot of search to narrow down my options to either a Kayfun or an Expromizer.
I went with the second option and specifically, Expromizer v2.1
Now...I ve tried all sorts of set ups, and all sorts of ohms - from 0.5 to 1.5, spaced vs contact coils, I ever upped my nicotine in my juices to 8mg/ml. Still cant get even the slightest of throat hit (well only a few hits in the morning before coffee lol). I kinda found the atomizer's sweet spot (judging from the vapor production and taste) around 1 - 1.2 ohms (which is to be expected I guess for this style of RBAs) but still.....zero throat hit. Setting it up with subohm (0.7 - 0.8) gives me a hotter vape but still....zero throat hit. I tried with 29 AWG, 28 AWG, 26AWG Kanthal wire...still zero TH. I tried placing the coil close to the air hole, away from the airhole....nada.
I apolgize for the long post but I had to make clear my issue:
So is there any way, to make a given atomizer provide more throat hit?
Im buffled as to why this happens - at first I thought it was the nature of cotton wicks, but I tried a clone Kayfun Lite the other day from a guy with 6mg/ml and 70%VG (which as we all know should provide less TH than my PG-based liquid) and it was heavenly.
Am I missing something obvious here in my coil builds or is it what it is, and I just need to get a kayfun?
Thanks and again sorry for the long post.
Now that the intro is over...I'll get to my issue - question, please bare with me.
I had been vaping all these years with a rebuildable tank system which was like the old cartomizers (remember those? lol). A super tiny coil had to be placed together with silica wick inside a ceramic and all that construction inside a "tube" which would then fit in a tank of liquid
(diver v2 by Atmistique for those wanting to know). Its coils demanded non-resistance and resistance wires, was bothersome to set up, and I could only use silica wick - that was the nature of the thing. My coils usually ended up around 1.5 - 1.7 ohms and the vapor production was ok-ish but I really enjoyed the throat hit. Im was using 6mg/ml nicotine juices with 75% PG - 25 % VG. I am a strictly MTL vaper and I dont care about clouds as much as I care about throat hit with the lowest nicotine possible.
When organic cotton came, I knew at some point I'd want to "ditch" my old atomizer and the slica wicks, I dunno I just feel cotton is more suitable as material and less risky as far as what we inhale goes - plus the silica wick could never achieve the wicking properties of cotton.
So I decided to take the plunge but I faced another problem - most of current RTAs are made for lung vapers - huge airflows and huge airhole below the coil - this means, in case you havent tried, that even if you "close" the adjustable airflows in the bottom of the tanks for MTL, that the velocity of the incoming air is too low to keep the coil in a efficient temperature - what you end up with when trying to vape MTL with these tanks is a too-hot wire (coil) making the whole thing completely unsuitable to vape - you can literally taste the metal of the wire.
What I did find out though is that Kanger's Subtank was efficient enough - I could MTL with its RBA and the smallest airflow setting. BUT...I faced another problem: I completely "lost" the throat hit I used to have with my old silica wick atomizer.
To get things in perspective, I used to vape at 1.5 ohms, around 10 - 12 watts and 6mg/ml juice.....and with the Subtank I went to 0.6 ohms, 25 watts and the same liquid and even though I feel the vapor "hitting" (burning sensation) my mouth, there is absolutely no throat hit.
I thought oh well....different atomizer, thats the nature of it.
I then tried all sorts of tanks which would all fail for MTL vaping due to the reason I explained above (I understood later) and then I ended up, after a lot of search to narrow down my options to either a Kayfun or an Expromizer.
I went with the second option and specifically, Expromizer v2.1
Now...I ve tried all sorts of set ups, and all sorts of ohms - from 0.5 to 1.5, spaced vs contact coils, I ever upped my nicotine in my juices to 8mg/ml. Still cant get even the slightest of throat hit (well only a few hits in the morning before coffee lol). I kinda found the atomizer's sweet spot (judging from the vapor production and taste) around 1 - 1.2 ohms (which is to be expected I guess for this style of RBAs) but still.....zero throat hit. Setting it up with subohm (0.7 - 0.8) gives me a hotter vape but still....zero throat hit. I tried with 29 AWG, 28 AWG, 26AWG Kanthal wire...still zero TH. I tried placing the coil close to the air hole, away from the airhole....nada.
I apolgize for the long post but I had to make clear my issue:
So is there any way, to make a given atomizer provide more throat hit?
Im buffled as to why this happens - at first I thought it was the nature of cotton wicks, but I tried a clone Kayfun Lite the other day from a guy with 6mg/ml and 70%VG (which as we all know should provide less TH than my PG-based liquid) and it was heavenly.
Am I missing something obvious here in my coil builds or is it what it is, and I just need to get a kayfun?
Thanks and again sorry for the long post.
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