It will never reach the tax revenue that tobacco does.
FDA Sen Johnson (R-Wis) demands answers from FDA RE deeming
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It will never reach the tax revenue that tobacco does.
We may yet see the demon deeming scrapped. Please send your message of support to these 2 vaping warriors
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Hope so. We need to get the rats out of the pantry at the FDA and extract vaping from tobacco legislation.
Good luck all and Happy Holidays.
I'm not sure sure Pence is the one to write to:
MIKE PENCE IN CAHOOTS WITH BIG TOBACCO; SAYS ‘SMOKING DOESN’T KILL’
MIKE PENCE IN CAHOOTS WITH BIG TOBACCO; SAYS ‘SMOKING DOESN’T KILL’
The single most Single Issue of importance relevant to this thread is happening right now. It seems that Pres. Elect Trump is considering his man for the FDA. He hasn't asked to review Dr. Robert Califf's resume, so I hope the Dr. is packing his desk light.
The two that the media thinks are most likely are Libertarian Jim O'Neill, and Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
Notice that the current head is a Dr., and Gottlieb is as well. The job doesn't REQUIRE one be a Dr., and of course there is the whole question of Dr. of What? Hell, an M.D. and a D.O. approach the pharmaceutical side of patient often differently. Of course, as well as doctors within their disciple and expertise.
It DOES kind of make sense that he should have some understanding of the sciences pertinent to food and drugs. So that makes O'Neill a little shaky. Oh, and the Medical Community is devastated at the thought.He is considered a radical, which to many of us, may not sound too bad.
If VAPING is the most important thing in your life though, this is probably your guy. He has made comments in the past about greatly changing the scope of the agency, the protocol to be used for approval, lots of things. So what is he an expert OF? Well, he is a managing director of a venture capital firm owned by Billionaire Peter Thiel, a big supporter, and sponsor, of Donald.
The other choice, Gottlieb, has deep deep ties to Big Pharma, most notably Glaxo Kline Smith. Makers of Nicoderm.
Anyone from a conspiracy theorist to a normal citizen who is concerned about vaping, might be concerned about Gottlieb. Or maybe not.
Maybe the President Elect is lining a cabinet full of experts who are sick of their industries malarkey, and know exactly what to do about it. Maybe he is going to the mattresses, with a squad of insiders who wish to make a big difference, and clean out the waste, fraud, and corruption.
I wish they would SAY that. Maybe they can't. So far the record for people with industry connections, helping their industry, stands at roughy all of them. Darn it, I AM a dreamer. Give me that for a month anyway.
In what I hope is completely unrelated news, Pres Elect trump was seen leaving a meeting with Kanye West.
The two that the media thinks are most likely are Libertarian Jim O'Neill, and Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
Notice that the current head is a Dr., and Gottlieb is as well. The job doesn't REQUIRE one be a Dr., and of course there is the whole question of Dr. of What? Hell, an M.D. and a D.O. approach the pharmaceutical side of patient often differently. Of course, as well as doctors within their disciple and expertise.
It DOES kind of make sense that he should have some understanding of the sciences pertinent to food and drugs. So that makes O'Neill a little shaky. Oh, and the Medical Community is devastated at the thought.He is considered a radical, which to many of us, may not sound too bad.
If VAPING is the most important thing in your life though, this is probably your guy. He has made comments in the past about greatly changing the scope of the agency, the protocol to be used for approval, lots of things. So what is he an expert OF? Well, he is a managing director of a venture capital firm owned by Billionaire Peter Thiel, a big supporter, and sponsor, of Donald.
The other choice, Gottlieb, has deep deep ties to Big Pharma, most notably Glaxo Kline Smith. Makers of Nicoderm.
Anyone from a conspiracy theorist to a normal citizen who is concerned about vaping, might be concerned about Gottlieb. Or maybe not.
Maybe the President Elect is lining a cabinet full of experts who are sick of their industries malarkey, and know exactly what to do about it. Maybe he is going to the mattresses, with a squad of insiders who wish to make a big difference, and clean out the waste, fraud, and corruption.
I wish they would SAY that. Maybe they can't. So far the record for people with industry connections, helping their industry, stands at roughy all of them. Darn it, I AM a dreamer. Give me that for a month anyway.
In what I hope is completely unrelated news, Pres Elect trump was seen leaving a meeting with Kanye West.
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Pence has not seemed sympathetic to the plight of vapers or the small businesses engaged in catering to vapers in Indiana:
Indiana's E-cigarette Nonsense
However, times change and hopefully so has he.
Indiana's E-cigarette Nonsense
However, times change and hopefully so has he.
The single most Single Issue of importance relevant to this thread is happening right now. It seems that Pres. Elect Trump is considering his man for the FDA. He hasn't asked to review Dr. Robert Califf's resume, so I hope the Dr. is packing his desk light.
The two that the media thinks are most likely are Libertarian Jim O'Neill, and Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
Notice that the current head is a Dr., and Gottlieb is as well. The job doesn't REQUIRE one be a Dr., and of course there is the whole question of Dr. of What? Hell, an M.D. and a D.O. approach the pharmaceutical side of patient often differently. Of course, as well as doctors within their disciple and expertise.
It DOES kind of make sense that he should have some understanding of the sciences pertinent to food and drugs. So that makes O'Neill a little shaky. Oh, and the Medical Community is devastated at the thought.He is considered a radical, which to many of us, may not sound too bad.
If VAPING is the most important thing in your life though, this is probably your guy. He has made comments in the past about greatly changing the scope of the agency, the protocol to be used for approval, lots of things. So what is he an expert OF? Well, he is a managing director of a venture capital firm owned by Billionaire Peter Thiel, a big supporter, and sponsor, of Donald.
The other choice, Gottlieb, has deep deep ties to Big Pharma, most notably Glaxo Kline Smith. Makers of Nicoderm.
Anyone from a conspiracy theorist to a normal citizen who is concerned about vaping, might be concerned about Gottlieb. Or maybe not.
Maybe the President Elect is lining a cabinet full of experts who are sick of their industries malarkey, and know exactly what to do about it. Maybe he is going to the mattresses, with a squad of insiders who wish to make a big difference, and clean out the waste, fraud, and corruption.
I wish they would SAY that. Maybe they can't. So far the record for people with industry connections, helping their industry, stands at roughy all of them. Darn it, I AM a dreamer. Give me that for a month anyway.
In what I hope is completely unrelated news, Pres Elect trump was seen leaving a meeting with Kanye West.
Honestly, I respectfully truly dearly hope so…but my inner instincts…
I find it difficult to assimilate how an A-team of industry insiders themselves the source of much of our misery may do much more than to wrap this overly ripe banana in a more palatable wrapper. Just how far can we take the enemy of our enemy before we are all swallowed by the quicksand? The enemy is the author of confusion.
What we need is clarity. Extract vaping from tobacco legislation. A return to law not administrative process. Rule makers and rule revisers we've had a stomach full of and its time to disgorge. Promises mean nothing and the appearance of action and success are just so much P T Barnum. We need conviction (or perhaps the plural).
Good luck all and Happy Holidays.
Honestly, I respectfully truly dearly hope so…but my inner instincts…
I find it difficult to assimilate how an A-team of industry insiders themselves the source of much of our misery may do much more than to wrap this overly ripe banana in a more palatable wrapper. Just how far can we take the enemy of our enemy before we are all swallowed by the quicksand? The enemy is the author of confusion.
What we need is clarity. Extract vaping from tobacco legislation. A return to law not administrative process. Rule makers and rule revisers we've had a stomach full of and its time to disgorge. Promises mean nothing and the appearance of action and success are just so much P T Barnum. We need conviction (or perhaps the plural).
Good luck all and Happy Holidays.
Happy Holidays, Mac. Who knows, maybe Kanye IS being considered for the FDA. He wouldn't be the FIRST rapper to be interested in Food and Drug Administration.
Happy Holidays, Mac. Who knows, maybe Kanye IS being considered for the FDA. He wouldn't be the FIRST rapper to be interested in Food and Drug Administration.
Oh you're bad LLB and back at ya. But nothing would surprise me at this point but a little more freedom.
Good luck all.
I'm very suspicious of politicians. Other than votes, what does this senator have to gain by writing that letter?
The single most Single Issue of importance relevant to this thread is happening right now. It seems that Pres. Elect Trump is considering his man for the FDA. He hasn't asked to review Dr. Robert Califf's resume, so ..............
Maybe the President Elect is lining a cabinet full of experts who are sick of their industries malarkey, and know exactly what to do about it. Maybe he is going to the mattresses, with a squad of insiders who wish to make a big difference, and clean out the waste, fraud, and corruption.
I wish they would SAY that. Maybe they can't. So far the record for people with industry connections, helping their industry, stands at roughy all of them. Darn it, I AM a dreamer. Give me that for a month anyway.
In what I hope is completely unrelated news, Pres Elect trump was seen leaving a meeting with Kanye West.
Came across this in Bill G's Tobacco Harm Reduction Update e-Mail.
Library | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee
(Click on "Chairman Johnson letter to Sec. Price on e-cigarettes")
Library | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee
(Click on "Chairman Johnson letter to Sec. Price on e-cigarettes")
Very nice. I was thinking to myself to today "How can we get our plight as vapers into the notice of the new group Trump created to ferret out unduly burdensome regulations." Looks like the Mr. Johnson is way ahead of me.
Yep, and SFATA wrote a longer letter yesterday to Scty. Price and SBA and OMB heads urging them to push all dates to 2022. I think we may get this done.
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I second that emotion Truth. Hope such opens the door and that vaping can be extracted from tobacco legislation. We need a proper definition for the latter that does not involve nicotine as a pretext for taxation and control. Until this happens this community will continue to remain exposed to marginalization and its participants regarded as second class citizens regardless of accommodations to commerce.
Yes certainly suspend, repeal…but by all means extract vaping from tobacco legislation.
Good luck.
Any reason the current leadership has still not fulfilled Ron's request for information that was made last year?
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