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Thrasher" data-source="post: 11076562" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Thrasher said:
This is truly funny. LOL.
If that made one iota of sense to me, I might try to be snarky in return.
Which belief am I insecure in, exactly?
My Conservative political beliefs?
My Christian religious beliefs?
My belief that the Samsung Galaxy is a superior smartphone to the Apple iPhone?
My belief that dogs are better than cats?
My belief that BJJHQ.com needs to improve their shipping label placement habits?
If you're going to attack me, please tell me exactly what it is that you're attacking.
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I count maybe 1 cogent response so far, and I'll let it stand as legitimate opinion.
Try to go to the vape shop and ask for "a battery" and watch the man behind the counter stare at you in confusion. Join reality. Things have names.
Yes, it was yours. Now sit back down in your seat. Your helmet has your name on it. ;]
"Vaping." OK, I understand the desire to differentiate from smoking tobacco, I really do. But please understand that "vaping" is likely to convey (illegal) drug connotations to the general public, right or wrong. I can't pretend to have come up with something better, but "smoking alternative" or "vapor smoking" is probably better received, whether it looks like a cigarette or not.
How about we call it "not smoking and not in a mad rush to die"?
"Analogs." Just call them cigarettes, which is what everyone else does. If you want to make people think they're not part of the club, calling them analogs is a good start.
We could call them cancer sticks!
"Cartos." "Attos." "Clearos." "Glassos." etc. They're all atomizers/vaporizers (pick a term). I get the whole custom/differentiation thing, but lose the cuteness and use one all encompassing term to refer to this part. Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Zeppo are OK.
Well, no...they're NOT all the same. They're all different and we use the different terms to distinguish one from another. You'll figure it out after you've been here a while.
"e-juice," "e-liquid." It's not the juice of anything. It's not electronic ("e") in any way. It's a liquid, just call it that. Or maybe "e-cigarette liquid."
Let's just call it "Melvin".
... does "mod' mean? Perhaps it at one time meant modified. But, if you can buy a "mod" off the shelf, it's not modified, is it? Just call it a battery. Maybe it's fancy. It doesn't matter, it's a battery (holder).
You need something better to do with your time than overanalyze this...lol
VV/VW. VV is really CV - sure, you control (vary) it, but you're telling it to deliver a Constant Voltage. VW is the same only different, it's actually Constant Wattage. Plain batteries with no electronics provide VV/VW - the Voltage/Wattage varies as you drain the battery. And that terminology come from a long history of professional, lab grade, voltage sources/power supplies, don't try to change it. But it is, first and foremost, a battery.
What flowerpots said.
Having said all that (and I'm sure I could think of more), I don't expect to change the industry. But many here seem to want to encourage this to go mainstream faster than it already is. The whole terminology thing makes that hard, and presents a barrier to entry - fundamentally there are only three things involved - a power source (call it a battery), a liquid, and a vaporizer. Don't make it harder than it is, that comes later. If you try to get someone into it, tell them to get a battery (and charger), a vaporizer which fits it, and a liquid which tastes good to them - the detail comes later.
Seriously, you're too concerned about this stuff. The fact is that vaping is NOT quite as simple as you want it to be and it's been around longer than your foray into the activity. The more people are out there doing it - and using the terminology - the more others will understand. Those who aren't vaping don't need to know half this stuff, anyway, like what a mod is or what type of delivery device one uses. They likely won't even CARE because it will be irrelevant to them.
Or, don't. But expect that big tobacco will make it easy to understand/buy/use, and that's where the market will go. This industry is its own worst enemy.
Big Tobacco is also fighting Big Pharm. Chances are, Big Pharm and the government will win, regardless of what words we use. If you're so concerned about it you can visit the CASAA.org site, learn more about it and the fight to keep it available for us, and work on REALLY making a difference other than just lecturing people on this message board and just looking like a pissy n00b without a clue.
Now, get off my lawn.
I'll bet you shake your fists at clouds, too....lol
How about we call it "not smoking and not in a mad rush to die"?
"Analogs." Just call them cigarettes, which is what everyone else does. If you want to make people think they're not part of the club, calling them analogs is a good start.
We could call them cancer sticks!
"Cartos." "Attos." "Clearos." "Glassos." etc. They're all atomizers/vaporizers (pick a term). I get the whole custom/differentiation thing, but lose the cuteness and use one all encompassing term to refer to this part. Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Zeppo are OK.
Well, no...they're NOT all the same. They're all different and we use the different terms to distinguish one from another. You'll figure it out after you've been here a while.
"e-juice," "e-liquid." It's not the juice of anything. It's not electronic ("e") in any way. It's a liquid, just call it that. Or maybe "e-cigarette liquid."
Let's just call it "Melvin".
... does "mod' mean? Perhaps it at one time meant modified. But, if you can buy a "mod" off the shelf, it's not modified, is it? Just call it a battery. Maybe it's fancy. It doesn't matter, it's a battery (holder).
You need something better to do with your time than overanalyze this...lol
VV/VW. VV is really CV - sure, you control (vary) it, but you're telling it to deliver a Constant Voltage. VW is the same only different, it's actually Constant Wattage. Plain batteries with no electronics provide VV/VW - the Voltage/Wattage varies as you drain the battery. And that terminology come from a long history of professional, lab grade, voltage sources/power supplies, don't try to change it. But it is, first and foremost, a battery.
What flowerpots said.
Having said all that (and I'm sure I could think of more), I don't expect to change the industry. But many here seem to want to encourage this to go mainstream faster than it already is. The whole terminology thing makes that hard, and presents a barrier to entry - fundamentally there are only three things involved - a power source (call it a battery), a liquid, and a vaporizer. Don't make it harder than it is, that comes later. If you try to get someone into it, tell them to get a battery (and charger), a vaporizer which fits it, and a liquid which tastes good to them - the detail comes later.
Seriously, you're too concerned about this stuff. The fact is that vaping is NOT quite as simple as you want it to be and it's been around longer than your foray into the activity. The more people are out there doing it - and using the terminology - the more others will understand. Those who aren't vaping don't need to know half this stuff, anyway, like what a mod is or what type of delivery device one uses. They likely won't even CARE because it will be irrelevant to them.
Or, don't. But expect that big tobacco will make it easy to understand/buy/use, and that's where the market will go. This industry is its own worst enemy.
Big Tobacco is also fighting Big Pharm. Chances are, Big Pharm and the government will win, regardless of what words we use. If you're so concerned about it you can visit the CASAA.org site, learn more about it and the fight to keep it available for us, and work on REALLY making a difference other than just lecturing people on this message board and just looking like a pissy n00b without a clue.
Now, get off my lawn.
I'll bet you shake your fists at clouds, too....lol
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Clarifying: Wasn't legitimately calling you a hypocrite. Was referring to you talking about that-which-shall-not-be-talked-about, which, of course, is the handshake...
... Crap... Just talked about it...
... Time to off myself.
Of course not. flowerpots is the only one who's added anything of value.
Umm....Did you not see the awesome giraffe pic !
Seriously though man the terms are what they are .
Would simpler be nice ? Yeah maybe but wheres the fun in that.
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