Should we vape juices that eat through plastic?

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  1. Arnie H

    Arnie H Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hi. Any opinions on this: Should we be vaping juices that are capable of eating through plastic tanks? Juices like radiator pluid, etc? Kinda makes you wonder what it might be doing to your lungs. Of course everyone is free to do as they wish, just wondering about the health issue? Anyone else prefer natural flavors and no artificial color?
     
  2. Ryan1888

    Ryan1888 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I see your point but it sure as hell beats the 4000 chemicals in traditional cigarettes. Until there is concrete evidence of it causing ill effects then I will keep on vaping these juices.
     
  3. Ryan1888

    Ryan1888 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just to add - some may call my statement ignorant as "anything that eats through plastic can't be healthy". Well I and all of us here were ignorant enough to smoke for years on end.

    Vape on!
     
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  5. HeavyUser

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    I just got my first 2 bottles of Pluid cutter. I put it in a carto tank and with 8 hours of smoking it I started noticing a brown run off coming out of my carto holes. I can only assume the Pluid is somehow dissolving whatever is getting gunked on the coil. Today I decided that anythign that will eat away at platic for whatever reason I'm not going to smoke. I'm not a health nut but in my opion this is just wrong. Its already hard enough for me to vape knowing there is no concrete evidence that it is safe. I was never a smoker of cigs before I started vaping. This is just all my opinion.
     
  6. Baditude

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    Everyone calm down. :ohmy: The issue here is a chemical reaction between specific flavoring agents to a specific plastic - polycarbonate. This link has an interesting explanation of the process: » Why Do Some E-liquids Crack Plastic Tanks?

    The molecules of certain flavors can have a chemical attraction to certain components of polycarbonate plastic. As more and more bonds are made, the plastic weakens and either cracks or melts. This in no way means that these specific flavors do the same thing to your lungs when you vape it. :rolleyes:

    As an anology, everyone here likely drinks soda pop and has had no issues with it dissolving away your stomach. But many people will apply soda pop to the corrosive buildup on a car battery's terminals to make it dissolve away.

    The choice is obviously your own to decide whether to vape one of these flavors. I have a few Cinnamon and Citrus Flavors that I have used for months and have had no pulmonary problems from doing so. Nearly all of my juice delivery devices are made of pyrex glass.

    For additional information on this topic, including a video of a clearomizer melting and safe options to use with these flavors, read this blog article that I wrote: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html
     
  7. Ryan1888

    Ryan1888 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May I ask what got you into e cigs?
     
  8. HeavyUser

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    I enjoy smoking. I understnad the chemical reaction involving the plastic, I guess I'd just like to know why im getting a brown runoff coming out of my cartomizer. It's a hell of a turn off.
     
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    Yeah, I have been wondering about the safety of dihydrogen monoxide--after all, it does corrode metal. :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    I realize you're new to vaping, but we are not "smoking". There is no burning of anything and there is no smoke involved, just vapor. Sorry if this is nit-picking, but this is a pet peeve of mine. :)

    I have no idea what is happening with your Pluid and cartomizer. I have Pluid in a cartotank, too, and I've never experienced that with that flavor or any other. :unsure:
     
  11. crxess

    crxess ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I have, unfortunately, in the past been exposed to several highly toxic gasses.
    Phosgene Gas
    Muriatic Acid fumes
    Ammonia
    Fumes from Cosmicoat - tar pitch - burns skin like severe sunburn on exposure.

    None of these things did any significant damage to my lungs, though a few scared the heck out of me.
    I feel much safer with most of the flavors we vape.

    Caution note: I did receive an e-liquid that was severely NO E-LIQUID.
    Had NO TASTE
    Had no VAPOR
    Caused Instant BURNING in lungs and almost stopped breathing.
    Thinned to 1% in 5ml unflavored and got the same result in 1 vape attempt Lung Fire
    Dumped the bottle
    Never did find out what it was and the Vender never did anything about it.
     
  12. HeavyUser

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    Im vaping the cutter only, so its got that white milky color to it. I think if it was that green color I probably wouldnt be able to notice it.
     
  13. Caridwen

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    His liquid is high VG, isn't it? It could be that. I have a few liquids that do that- turn really dark and the tank looks a bit funky. Some liquid really gunks up the coils and don't play all that nice with cartos. Not a very scientific answer, but it's hot. :laugh: How does it taste? You could try thinning it a bit.
     
  14. HeavyUser

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    As far as taste goes, I really enjoy it. Its just the color of the liquid whent from milky white to doodoo brown :(
     
  15. Caridwen

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    Yikes! Is there vanilla in the liquid? Anything with vanilla seems to turn brown quickly IMO.
     
  16. Heavyrocker

    Heavyrocker Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Your lun;)gs are not made from plastic.
     
  17. Heavyrocker

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    Your lungs are not made of plastic.:2cool:
     
  18. Heavyrocker

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    Your lungs are not made of plastic.:2cool:
     
  19. HeavyUser

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    Just Pluid in a fresh Carto Cleaned tank.. I dunno. The brown is definitly seeping out of the holes in the carto.
     
  20. bigt

    bigt Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    No they are far more delicate and fragile than plastic.
     
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