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Smok Al85 burning holes in batteries

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  1. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
    Hey guys!

    I've had my Smok Al 85 for a while now. A previous battery I had in the mod, had 2 little holes through the battery wrap on the side near the top end(which is the negative side). And just earlier I noticed the same thing with a brand new battery I had just put in there. Anyone have similar problem or any suggestions?
     
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  2. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    Hum I have never heard of this, I popped my battery out and felt inside and it feels smooth, What brand Battery are you using ???

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  3. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
    I use a red AWT IMR 18650 3.7V 3000mah
     
  4. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    Hum it sounds like a piece of metal is rubbing the battery, check the inside of the cap with your finger and see if there is a rough spot.

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  5. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
    It couldn't be the cap since the holes on the battery are just below the opening but even inside the battery slot there is no rough spot
     
  6. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    My Cap is a bear to put on , I like the Mod but SMOk needs to do better threads. But I do like mine it is Pink and pretty and a nice little size. They cap could be doing something since the threading is on mine anyway is hard to put on, might keep your eye on that because tearing battery skin off is not cool .

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  7. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
     
  8. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
    Yeah I agree. But still not sure what the issue is
     
  9. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    That makes two of us , Looking at mine. And running my finger it is smooth, I hope someone with. More input chimes in, I have had mine less than a month. I still don't like holes your seeing on your battery....

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  10. Blake king

    Blake king New Member

    May 9, 2017

    I have had the same problem I have been looking all day for someone else with this issue!
     
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  11. Bad Ninja

    Bad Ninja Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2013
    Salton Sea, CA
    Can you post a pic of the damaged wrapper?
     
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  12. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    Yes Picture please

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  13. Blake king

    Blake king New Member

    May 9, 2017
    I took the most damaged one back to the shop and the other one has only a small amount of damage you won't be able to see much but both are in the same location
     
  14. Blake king

    Blake king New Member

    May 9, 2017
    I'll take a picture when I'm free
     
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  15. Yuhhh

    Yuhhh Full Member

    May 2, 2017
  16. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Texas
    To me, those 2 small holes appear to be melt points in the wrap.

    What power levels are you using?

    If you're in the mid 50w to over 60w range you are mostly likley over stressing the battery causing it to heat up.
    The wrap is a low temp heat shrink, if the cell heats up any imperfection in the the wrap (even unnoticeable by eye) could cause it to melt in these areas.

    awt is another one of those that falsely rate & re wrap cells, it may be a 20a cdr cell or it may be less.
    They frequently change the cell used underneath the wrap, no telling what you'll actually get.
    Best to purchase only authentic name brand cells from a reputable vendor / dealer.

    If you regularly use below 60w I'd suggest;
    Samsung 30q 3000mah 20a CDR
    LgHg2 3000mah 18ish a CDR
    Sony vtc6 3000mah 19ish a CDR

    Above 60w below 75w,
    Sony vtc5A must be ‘A’ 2500mah 25a CDR
    Lg HD2 2000mah 25a CDR
    LgHD 2C 2100 mah 25a CDR

    Above 75w;
    Sony vtc3 1500mah 28ish a CDR
    LGHB series 1500mah 30a CDR
     
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  17. Lady M

    Lady M Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 19, 2011
    Oregon
    Very interesting.

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  18. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    There's always the option to overwrap it with a clear shrink wrap that preserves the ID markings and provides a second skin to prevent further pin ....... IF there are projections inside the battery holder they should be apparent to a finger rub.

    I agree with Topwater Elvis in that there's shrinkage visible around the holes in the wrap. That indicates thin spots in the wrap that shrank away from the weak areas.

    Try some Samsung 30Q or 25R or any other 20A to 25A cells recommended by Mooch.
     
  19. bwh79

    bwh79 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2014
    Oregon
    I've noticed a lot of heat generated at the threading on the battery cap if it isn't screwed down all the way. It went away after I tightened the cap down further but if left unremedied, I could see this possibly melting holes in the wrap like that.
     
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  20. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I can see why heat could be generated at the cap if it's not tight. Loose caps create a point of resistance that generates heat.

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