So my doc doesn't like vaping

[lpboyle]

So I had my regular checkup at the VA yesterday. When the doc asked me about any changes since my last visit six months ago, I told her I had quit smoking by switching to vaping. She then immediately chimed in with "popcorn lung" and that ecigs have also been linked to pulmonary fibrosis.

Anybody got some decent links for counter arguments?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

 

[Toronnah]

IMO, don't argue with your doctor. Vapers cherry pick the studies that support their argument. But we are hardly scientists that can decide what the truth really is.

If you develop the ailments they suggest, then they treat it. If not, it's a non issue.

 

[Vaslovik]

So I had my regular checkup at the VA yesterday. When the doc asked me about any changes since my last visit six months ago, I told her I had quit smoking by switching to vaping. She then immediately chimed in with "popcorn lung" and that ecigs have also been linked to pulmonary fibrosis.

Anybody got some decent links for counter arguments?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

I have one. Tell her best of luck to ya, walk out, and get another doctor.

 

[lpboyle]

I have one. Tell her best of luck to ya, walk out, and get another doctor.

Not so easy with the Veteran's health system. But I appreciate the thought.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

 

[Toronnah]

It's like anything in your life. Bits and pieces will be challenged by your doc. Smoking, vaping, drinking, bacon, not enough exercise et al.

 

[Snugglepooter]

Yeah, the VA...

Thanks for your service, Ipboyle. I wish our nation would take better care of you and your fellow veterans.

 

[retired1]

Unfortunately, some branches of the service have lumped vaping into the same category as smoking. And with the CDC pushing their misinformation campaign, more and more docs are going to buy into the falsehoods.

Only thing you can do is provide additional information that debunks those studies. CASAA would be a good start with their links to studies. Learn About Electronic Cigarettes

 

[lpboyle]

Unfortunately, some branches of the service have lumped vaping into the same category as smoking. And with the CDC pushing their misinformation campaign, more and more docs are going to buy into the falsehoods.

Only thing you can do is provide additional information that debunks those studies. CASAA would be a good start with their links to studies. Learn About Electronic Cigarettes

Thanks, I forgot all about that CASAA page.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

 

[tj99959]

http: (link brake) //vapeaboutit.com/study-finds-vaping-is-95-safer-than-smoking

 

[wwdragon]

Funny I mentioned to my Doc that I quit smoking and was just vaping, he told me if I can keep it up after 3 months he will consider me a non smoker and would pass that info to my insurance company

 

[DavidOck]

Start with these:

Tobacco Harm Reduction

Nicotine Propaganda

The Ultimate List of E-Cig Studies: Are E-Cigs Actually Safe? *Updated 2/16/14 - onVaping

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Funny I mentioned to my Doc that I quit smoking and was just vaping, he told me if I can keep it up after 3 months he will consider me a non smoker and would pass that info to my insurance company

I had the same reaction as well, I had been vaping about 3-4 months when I told my Doctor. He immediately changed my files to former smoker.

 

[Super Flex]

I am a Vet also and both my Primary Care and Mental Health provider have approved of my choice of vaping to smoking. All of my health problems I,e blood pressure, O2 and A1C have all moved back into normal ranges, especially my O2 because I was on oxygen 24/7, its now at 91-93 as opposed to 79-85, so needless to say their very happy with my lifestyle choice.

I have one. Tell her best of luck to ya, walk out, and get another doctor.

you can request another doctor if your uncomfortable with your current one.

 

[93gc40]

Funny I mentioned to my Doc that I quit smoking and was just vaping, he told me if I can keep it up after 3 months he will consider me a non smoker and would pass that info to my insurance company

This works when your Dr is medically oriented.... Unfortunately, many DRs are politically/bureaucratically oriented. Which mean they follow rules not logic or facts.

 

[Vaslovik]

you can request another doctor if your uncomfortable with your current one.

I really think he should. It's clear this doc's cup is already full, of the wrong stuff, and she's not going to listen. I deal with that mindset all the time at work, and once they take that position there's nothing you can tell them.

 

[Vaslovik]

IMO, don't argue with your doctor. Vapers cherry pick the studies that support their argument. But we are hardly scientists that can decide what the truth really is.

If you develop the ailments they suggest, then they treat it. If not, it's a non issue.

This doctor is quite clearly prejudiced against vaping, and prejudice isn't science. I'm willing to bet she's not looked into it at all, and hers is a knee-jerk reaction to it in which SHE cherry-picked from what ANTZ puts out.

 

[lpboyle]

I may have to request a new doc. However, apart from the attitude about vaping, I actually like this one. She actually takes some other health issues I have (chonic pain in my back and hip that affects my walking) seriously as opposed to my previous doc who always gave me a "suck it up and drive on" attitude.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

 

[Belhade]

Get some info on diacetyl and juice manufacturers voluntarily removing it from their recipes. That should help clear up the popcorn lung argument.

 

[Vaslovik]

Get some info on diacetyl and juice manufacturers voluntarily removing it from their recipes. That should help clear up the popcorn lung argument.

No one has ever gotten popcorn lung from vaping. Only those working in the popcorn factories have.

 

[Belhade]

No one has ever gotten popcorn lung from vaping. Only those working in the popcorn factories have.

Right, but the proactive steps being taken should help ease people's concerns and debunk the misinformation.