I've been reading this forum for a month, pretty heavily.
<<I edited my posts to not include all of my life story, for purposes of some anonymity (sp) so I'm taking out a lot of stuff >>
2 days ago ordered ecig online from totally wicked, haven't gotten it yet.
But something has occurred to me: I don't think I'm addicted to nicotine anymore, but I DO need the WTA.
A month ago I decided to try to quit cigs. It was VERY hard... very... the last 2-3 weeks I've been down to 1-3 american spirit cigs a day... for awhile it was half to 1 cig a day...but then lately started creeping back up... frustrating...
But what I've come to realize, is that I need the WTA's (maoi or whatever)..
It treats a depression I have... I've had this depression since I was very young.
So my PLAN, is this: I'm going to go buy a bunch of american spirit organic loose-leaf tobacco...
I'm going to soak it in water for 24 hours. Then strain and dry. This will hopefully remove the nicotine I was addicted to before.
I will then try to just smoke this mixture to see what level I need to get my MAOI's or whatever... -OR- I'm going to experiment with eating it... in very small quantities.
I did a similar experiment awhile back... I tried toasting the tobacco in the oven... to seemingly remove the nicotine.. and I still have some of that... but I'm not "sure" if thats what I need. Maybe... but I really haven't used it that much. I think the toasting might have destroyed the WTA's somewhat... but hell maybe there is still something about the nicotine that combined with the WTA...again this experiment will hopefully figure that out.
I think the water soak will get rid of the nicotine more than toasting it...
Because I think it basically took me 1 REALLY hard week, and another HARD week....to get OVER the nicotine addiction!!! I basically SLEPT for an entire week straight. It REALLY sucked. I think it was part physical AND psychological. I was VERY addicted to the nicotine I think! And I REALLLLLY don't want to get back into that addiction!
Basically I don't want to get back to HAVING to smoke every half hour or hour JUST to get my nicotine...which... is okay, but its a stimulant I personally don't think I really need... and DEFINITELY something I don't want to get back addicted to. I think its definitely more addictive than caffeine... I think.
I guess I will find out exactly what it is I want with my experiment.
But I think this could be a very simple way for all of us to get our MAOI's that we want, or the WTA's... without being seemingly "addicted" to smoking... if you will... I mean, not having to CONSTANTLY smoke throughout the day because its the nicotine that is doing this to us?
I'm not sure if the effect I want will be apparent if I simply EAT the resulting denicotinized tobacco (in very small quantities), but I will find out. This could be an easy way around all the hassle of having to buy dissolvables, snuff, snus, all that. I'm really not interested in all that. I've tried snus before. Been there done that. The only thing that I'd be interested is in that supposedly new product that is going to hit the market, that denicotinized WTA supplement. But this hopefully will be the exact same thing, and hopefully cheaper?
I would rather just smoke 3-5 cigs of denicotinized tobacco and deal with possible cancer risk (if thats all it would take for me, i'm not sure how "much" i would smoke)... I would rather do that, then mess with everything else. And if eating works, then I can just do that... talk about EASY! No need to wait for any "developments".
The other thing i will be doing, is experimenting with adding Passionflower to the ecig no-nic juice once I get it, and see if that works. I really DO love smoking... but I've proven to myself since trying to quit, that I really don't NEED to smoke anymore... its just the depression/anxiety starts getting to me bad, and I'm NOT going down that road anymore.
But I wonder...how much I still miss the nicotine? I don't THINK I do..but maybe nicotine IS part of it... my experiments will find out. I expect to do this tomorrow and I'll post on my thread.
Anyone interested in this? Reply to this thread. Thanks.
<<I edited my posts to not include all of my life story, for purposes of some anonymity (sp) so I'm taking out a lot of stuff >>
2 days ago ordered ecig online from totally wicked, haven't gotten it yet.
But something has occurred to me: I don't think I'm addicted to nicotine anymore, but I DO need the WTA.
A month ago I decided to try to quit cigs. It was VERY hard... very... the last 2-3 weeks I've been down to 1-3 american spirit cigs a day... for awhile it was half to 1 cig a day...but then lately started creeping back up... frustrating...
But what I've come to realize, is that I need the WTA's (maoi or whatever)..
It treats a depression I have... I've had this depression since I was very young.
So my PLAN, is this: I'm going to go buy a bunch of american spirit organic loose-leaf tobacco...
I'm going to soak it in water for 24 hours. Then strain and dry. This will hopefully remove the nicotine I was addicted to before.
I will then try to just smoke this mixture to see what level I need to get my MAOI's or whatever... -OR- I'm going to experiment with eating it... in very small quantities.
I did a similar experiment awhile back... I tried toasting the tobacco in the oven... to seemingly remove the nicotine.. and I still have some of that... but I'm not "sure" if thats what I need. Maybe... but I really haven't used it that much. I think the toasting might have destroyed the WTA's somewhat... but hell maybe there is still something about the nicotine that combined with the WTA...again this experiment will hopefully figure that out.
I think the water soak will get rid of the nicotine more than toasting it...
Because I think it basically took me 1 REALLY hard week, and another HARD week....to get OVER the nicotine addiction!!! I basically SLEPT for an entire week straight. It REALLY sucked. I think it was part physical AND psychological. I was VERY addicted to the nicotine I think! And I REALLLLLY don't want to get back into that addiction!
Basically I don't want to get back to HAVING to smoke every half hour or hour JUST to get my nicotine...which... is okay, but its a stimulant I personally don't think I really need... and DEFINITELY something I don't want to get back addicted to. I think its definitely more addictive than caffeine... I think.
I guess I will find out exactly what it is I want with my experiment.
But I think this could be a very simple way for all of us to get our MAOI's that we want, or the WTA's... without being seemingly "addicted" to smoking... if you will... I mean, not having to CONSTANTLY smoke throughout the day because its the nicotine that is doing this to us?
I'm not sure if the effect I want will be apparent if I simply EAT the resulting denicotinized tobacco (in very small quantities), but I will find out. This could be an easy way around all the hassle of having to buy dissolvables, snuff, snus, all that. I'm really not interested in all that. I've tried snus before. Been there done that. The only thing that I'd be interested is in that supposedly new product that is going to hit the market, that denicotinized WTA supplement. But this hopefully will be the exact same thing, and hopefully cheaper?
I would rather just smoke 3-5 cigs of denicotinized tobacco and deal with possible cancer risk (if thats all it would take for me, i'm not sure how "much" i would smoke)... I would rather do that, then mess with everything else. And if eating works, then I can just do that... talk about EASY! No need to wait for any "developments".
The other thing i will be doing, is experimenting with adding Passionflower to the ecig no-nic juice once I get it, and see if that works. I really DO love smoking... but I've proven to myself since trying to quit, that I really don't NEED to smoke anymore... its just the depression/anxiety starts getting to me bad, and I'm NOT going down that road anymore.
But I wonder...how much I still miss the nicotine? I don't THINK I do..but maybe nicotine IS part of it... my experiments will find out. I expect to do this tomorrow and I'll post on my thread.
Anyone interested in this? Reply to this thread. Thanks.
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