Steeping and adding nicotine later

[shlomsi]

Hi,
Although I'm new to posting here, Iv'e been reading these forums and done quite a digging and research to enrich my knowledge.
Been vaping for a few months now, always with pre made liquids.
I'm now beginning to DIY my liquids, bought the pure PG and VG and separate 100mg/ml nicotine and of course flavors.
My question is: Is it alright to make a PG/VG + flavor mix, let it steep, and only add the nicotine afterwards?
Or is the steeping process has to include all ingredients in advance?

 

[shlomsi]

Sorry for the bumping, but I'ts on the second page and I guess it got slipped by unnoticed

 

[MorpheusPA]

It sounds like you want to make a larger batch of flavoring and change the nic levels as you go?

Sure, that's fine if you want. Make sure to shake extremely well before use, and realize that post adding the nic the flavor may change as the nic steeps into the flavoring. Nicotine adds a peppery note that seems to take a while to integrate with the rest of the flavors. I find freshly mixed liquids to have too much pepper and too little everything else.

I wouldn't mix up huge amounts of flavoring at once. Some won't have nearly as much durability as others, and will go off faster. Mentholds, mints, and cinnamon seem almost immortal. Fruit flavors turn relatively fast.

 

[shlomsi]

Thanks,
The reason is, mainly, to not waste the nicotine as I experiment with flavor and only add the nicotine after I'm satisfied with the mix (of course after the nicotine-less mix steeped).
The nicotine level for my liking is quite constant at about 12-15mg/ml.
So I understand that common practice would be to add the nicotine in advance to let all ingredients steep together? (and not be stingy)

 

[glassmanoak]

Most people add nicotine after they have a flavor they like. Once you have a flavor, you can mix a larger batch and let it all steep together.

 

[Steeler Girl]

Agree, find a flavor you like and then add the nicotine so as not to waste the most expensive ingredient. Just be sure to steep a little and shake very well.

 

[GraCnT]

Hi! I've just begun diy'ing and I have been trying my best to search and absorb any and all knowledge too.... I saw on you tube more than one person mention that it is the nicotine that is aging and steeping into the juice and that's what changes the flavor, (?) that the juice that is 0 nic does not need to be steeped... i also think I have seen many members post about this same thing..... so,, that would mean that the 0 nic batches wouldn't change flavor until you put the nic in, no matter how long you steep it.....

 

[bobalex]

tobacco flavors must be steeped and I would always have the nic in the mix. Once I get the flavor I want post steeping it would change when the nic was added.

 

[shlomsi]

Thank you all for the input
Much appreciated.

 

[Levitas]

Never did it this way, but, I have made pre-made pg/vg/nic bases that I later added flavors too In fact, I like to do this often, so that when I want to try a new flavor, I don't have to bust out all of my safety equipment and have clean up. Just add flavoring, and ready to go.... yep, I'm lazy.

 

[Lizzebed]

That is not lazy, that is just practical. I do the same thing. Mix up my nicotine into the strength I like in 100 ml bottles. And when I'm out of certain liquids, I can just fill up a smaller bottle and add some flavors to it.

 

[epage]

Never did it this way, but, I have made pre-made pg/vg/nic bases that I later added flavors too In fact, I like to do this often, so that when I want to try a new flavor, I don't have to bust out all of my safety equipment and have clean up. Just add flavoring, and ready to go.... yep, I'm lazy.

That sounds like a great idea! Thanks for the tip
I've yet to DIY, but it's something I'm planning on trying in the near future - saving up to get the right set up...

 

[glassmanoak]

Hi! I've just begun diy'ing and I have been trying my best to search and absorb any and all knowledge too.... I saw on you tube more than one person mention that it is the nicotine that is aging and steeping into the juice and that's what changes the flavor, (?) that the juice that is 0 nic does not need to be steeped... i also think I have seen many members post about this same thing..... so,, that would mean that the 0 nic batches wouldn't change flavor until you put the nic in, no matter how long you steep it.....

Absolutely incorrect! I always make 0 nic juices.. Zero nic is all I vape.. I can't handle the taste of nic juice any more.
The tobacco flavors still need steeping.. complex flavors still need steeping, etc.
I make lots of juice with nicotine because I do a lot of PIF for family and friends, so, bottom line is, if a juice needs steeping with nicotine, it needs steeping without nicotine.

 

[Renolizzie]

Never did it this way, but, I have made pre-made pg/vg/nic bases that I later added flavors too In fact, I like to do this often, so that when I want to try a new flavor, I don't have to bust out all of my safety equipment and have clean up. Just add flavoring, and ready to go.... yep, I'm lazy.

That's what I have been doing. It's practical. I really like to make sure I am getting the nic/pg/vg right so I get to measure once instead a bunch of times. I don't answer the phone and I don't go check and see what the dogs are up to. I just concentrate on getting the nic mg I want. I did 28, 20 and 15 last time in 120 ml bottles. Then when I add th flavor, I am pretty close to 24, 18 and 12 mg

 

[nosaint]

Never did it this way, but, I have made pre-made pg/vg/nic bases that I later added flavors too In fact, I like to do this often, so that when I want to try a new flavor, I don't have to bust out all of my safety equipment and have clean up. Just add flavoring, and ready to go.... yep, I'm lazy.

That's exactly what I do, but the consensus seems to be that more complex flavors and all tobacco flavors need to steep. What flavors are you using?