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tons of ecf threads on the subject, all packed with info, let's not start it here please. read the data in the fraunhofer research, also read the various links to others. nothng to panic about, of course, with formaldehyde levels that low, but still not a harmless summer mist. just sayin
Do you believe that Possible Harm to the User, or Possible harm to those around the User are the ONLY Factors that go into an e-Cigarette Use Policy?
No. What's your point? Original post quoted by glycerol was about tobacco.
On your property, you would be correct. Your house, your rules.
In a public place, where there are no regulations against it and we have equal rights? You don't get to dictate. In that situation there are basically three kinds of people. Those who ignore it or don't even notice. Those who are curious and ask about it. And those who deliberately walk up to a vaper so they can fake cough, b*tch, moan, and raise a stink. Out of curiosity, which are you?
Just asking if Harm is the Only Factor in deciding a Policy?
The Policy Committee I was on of Course wanted to know if e-Cigarettes were Harmful to the User or Others.
But there were Other Consideration that went into the Final Decision.
Interesting. What were the "Other Consideration" - and what was the Policy Committee for/about? Just curious.
in an advanced modern society it's not all about what one *can* do, it's more about what one *should*
just my 2 euro cents
This sounds like a draconian doctrine, don't you think? I would like to hope that a modern European society should be thinking far more about what their people can do rather than what they should do. Who decides "should" - religious folk? Philosophers? Politicians?
Or people?
Interesting. What were the "Other Consideration" - and what was the Policy Committee for/about? Just curious.
Policy for a College Campus.
Some of the Considerations were:
Legal Liability
Actual Content of the e-Liquid (what we Can't Talk about on the ECF)
The Teachers Union position on e-Cigarettes
How a Student Policy would impact a Non-Instructional Employee of the College
Possible Loss of State and Federal Funding
Propagation of an Addiction
Loss of Foundational Funding
Enforcement and Penalties
etc.
It would be Nice if Harm was the Only Consideration when forming an e-Cigarette Use Policy. But in the Real World, things Are Not so One Dimensional or Simple.
Of course - insurance can also be a big issue on campuses. However, where there are campuses there should be students - and they will be bright enough to argue the cause for vaping if they believe in it. Alternatively they can just roll over and let the college authorities treat them as if they weren't paying customers.
*you* are the religious folkWho decides "should" - religious folk? Philosophers? Politicians?
Or people?
*you* are all the philosophers and politicians
*you* are god
*you* are me
*you* are the universe
so is this purely a personal decision? yes, *if* it was 100% harmless. well, it's not.
I'm a bit confused. You appear to be talking twaddle.
Mountain air isn't 100% safe. What's your point?
Is the avatar Philip Larkin in a lab coat?
Or is it meant to suggest "I am not a doctor - but..."?P.S. I am not you. I'm really not. Get used to it.
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I'm not sure you Understand how a State College or University works in the USA.
But students have Very Little say in most things. And on my Campus, they had No Say in the Policy Making process.
The Only thing that Students played a Part in was Getting the Ban Started.
no, but i'm sure he enjoyed his worksIs the avatar Philip Larkin in a lab coat?
I'm sure that you're right - my apologies.
P.S. Is your use of capital letters a college-specific thing? If so, I really don't get how it works in the USA.
Ah - but e e cummings used capitals, or the lack of them, to great effect.
You just seem to capitalise when you feel like it. That's not the same thing at all.
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