Stop apologizing, You have never pointed your finger at me and laughed hysterically, though I have certainly given everyone plenty of opportunity!Again, pardon my denseness but, Red's still not getting it. Shown is add 1drop of PG, add 1drop of flavor and vape 3.
Can you give an example? I'm just glad I'm not mixing tonight. My gray matter couldn't handle it.
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, P=qty. of PG drops, F=qty. of flavor drops, T= Total qty of all drops)
Do just what it says to start.....put 19 drops of pg in a container....add 1 drop of flavor....then out of that mixture take 3 drops onto whatever you are testing with....addy or dripper and vape it. If you like it then that is where you find the % of where to start your ejuice flavoring.Again, pardon my denseness but, Red's still not getting it. Shown is add 1drop of PG, add 1drop of flavor and vape 3.
Can you give an example? I'm just glad I'm not mixing tonight. My gray matter couldn't handle it.
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Nicely said! Now we will just wait and see if that clears it up for @Simply RedDo just what it says to start.....put 19 drops of pg in a container....add 1 drop of flavor....then out of that mixture take 3 drops onto whatever you are testing with....addy or dripper and vape it. If you like it then that is where you find the % of where to start your ejuice flavoring.
Taking that same mixture in your container, you then would add 7 more drops of pg and 1 drop of flavor and again, taking that mixture, drop 3 drops onto your dripper or atty and vape it. If you like that one then the % next to it is the one you would start your diy ejuice with......
So that on down the list it goes. You don't need to start over from scratch. You use the same container that you started with in the original 19 drops of pg........
By adding pg and flavor along the way and then testing it you begin to see how he is accomplishing the % of flavor to use.
Hope that was clear......at least that is what I thought you were asking. If not, then maybe someone else can be helped with this info
Stop apologizing, You have never pointed your finger at me and laughed hysterically, though I have certainly given everyone plenty of opportunity!
It is cumulative. Basically like this
1) start with 19P + 1F = 20T @ 5.0% 20T - 3T(to vape test) = 17T @ 5.0%
Do NOT start over. Instead add to what is left:
2) 17T @ 5.0% (left over from 1) + 7P + 1F = 25T @ 7.4%, 25T - 3T (to vape test) = 22T @ 7.4%
3) 22T @ 7.4% (left over from 2) + 3P + 3F = 28T @ 10.1% 28T - 3T (to vape test) = 25T @ 10.1%
4) 25T @ 10.1% (left over from 3) + 2P + 2F = 29T @ 12.8% 29T - 3T (to vape test) = 26T @ 12.8%
5) 26T @ 12.8% (left over from 4) + 3P + 1F = 30T @ 15.2% 30T - 3T (to vape test) = 27T @ 15.2%
6) 27T @ 15.2% (left over from 5) + 2P + 1F = 30T @ 17.3% 30T - 3T (to vape test) = 27T @ 17.3%
7) 27T @ 17.3% (left over from 6) + 1P + 1F = 29T @ 19.9% 29T - 3T (to Vape test) = 26T @ 19.9%
8) 26T @ 19.9% (left over from 7) + 1P + 1F = 28T @ 22.4% 28T - 3T (to vape test) = 25T @ 22.4%
9) 25T @ 22.4% (left over from 8) + 1P + 1F = 27T @ 24.8% 27T - 3T (to vape test) = 24T @ 24.8%
You might notice this escalates rather quickly so you will most likely never need to go through all 9 steps. Bill is a high flavor % style of mixer, and uses a lot of TFA, so this works nicely for his style.
I have begun to experiment with other flavor manufactures, and wanted something less aggressive, so I used his logic and came up with this lower percentage version.
It is important to note that this version uses a 25% DELUTED flavor in place of the full strength flavor called for in Bill's original chart.
I did this so the user wasn't going through a ton of extra product. Also note that the 20 drops total of the diluted flavor IS enough to go through all 9 steps of testing if so needed and yet does give you a bunch of waste if you do not. So here it is:
A couple of final thoughts:
The shortcoming of this second method can be too gentle a change to taste the difference in the first few steps (especially with flavor manufactures you regularly use at higher percentages). Because of this, I will always start with Bill's version first, and only switch to my variation if it is too strong in first 1 or 2 steps of Bill's.
If you are always a low flavor mixer then you may be fine starting with the second version.
If you want to see the second version in table form click here. Sorry that it is a Jpeg, but I haven't set up a drop box, and PB doesn't accept Doc files. If you need it in doc format, just PM me and I can email it to you. But the Jpeg should print out full size (8.5x11). It did for me when I tested it.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Do just what it says to start.....put 19 drops of pg in a container....add 1 drop of flavor....then out of that mixture take 3 drops onto whatever you are testing with....addy or dripper and vape it. If you like it then that is where you find the % of where to start your ejuice flavoring.
Taking that same mixture in your container, you then would add 7 more drops of pg and 1 drop of flavor and again, taking that mixture, drop 3 drops onto your dripper or atty and vape it. If you like that one then the % next to it is the one you would start your diy ejuice with......
So that on down the list it goes. You don't need to start over from scratch. You use the same container that you started with in the original 19 drops of pg........
By adding pg and flavor along the way and then testing it you begin to see how he is accomplishing the % of flavor to use.
Hope that was clear......at least that is what I thought you were asking. If not, then maybe someone else can be helped with this info
I just knew you couldn't get 3 drops outta 2. Thanks, y'all! 
Hey @hittman,
""If it can be confused; I WILL confuse it!"O...M...G!!!! I understood all of that....before coffee!!
.... Really good stuff! Thank you one and all!!
Red,
Can you post that here
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
It is sorely needed right now.....
Thank you.
All my flavorings & nic are in pg. I have to add very little pg to my final mix, mostly vg. I get flavors in pg because pg carries the flavor in vapor. It just made sense to me.
Ditto Kenna 
