The most ridiculous comment on the FDA deeming

Discussion in 'FDA Regulations' started by DrMA, Jul 22, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Some "Anonymous" "Health educator":rolleyes:, "certified":rolleyes: to "teach smoking cessation":rolleyes: apparently cannot tell the difference between FDA and EPA, not once, but 3 times in his/her 4-line comment. This is the level of literacy among the base of our opposition.

    PS: is that enough quotes and :rolleyes: to convey my exact feelings on this comment?

     
  2. Nermal

    Nermal Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    He forgot the OSHA citation.
     
  3. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    And that's tobbacco - spelled with two bb's. More than once even.

    I was never good at math, but I do believe I recovered from my addition.

    Yup, our youth sure do need more educators of that caliber. (I don't know whether to laugh or cry.)
     
  4. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    I'm starting to suspect s/he might be associated with Orange County Dept. of Education.
     
  5. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Dunno. I was thinking more along the lines of "*****." You can only be that wrong on purpose.
     
  6. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Well I've got a PHD then. I'm also 'certified' in spell check too.
     
  7. Anjaffm

    Anjaffm Dragon Lady ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Hahahahaha :) Nice "educator" indeed :p

    And yeah...

    = conflict of interest. Pure and simple. People who use e-cigs do not go and spend good money on some "education". Especially not on some "education" from somebody who is obviously in dire need of some education themselves :p

    We had this in Germany, one letter to the editor screamed about the oh-so-horrible dangers of e-cigs. From some doctor blabla, "Lung Specialist". - Yeah, a quick Google search found that the good doctor gives smoking cessation classes, at 200 Euro a pop. (1 Euro = 1.36 US$). No wonder the good doctor screamed about the oh-so-horrible dangers of his competition. :p
     
  8. Rickajho

    Rickajho ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Just how does one become "certified to teach smoking cessation"? Can I buy that degree on-line? Do I just make a big donation to the American Cancer Society? Do you receive a BS in Cessation (yeah - I said a BS) from Smith-Kline University?
     
  9. FinchX

    FinchX Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    AHAHA!!! I'm guessing you saw the notsosafe website as well??
     
  10. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I have a friend who is "certified". All the hotlines and quit smoking phone numbers go to "certified" (who knows what they are called) "counselors" for smokers who want to quit. She is one of these that quit smoking 20+ years ago and firmly believes because she "just did it" then anyone should be able to. The program looks for ex-smokers and I think it drills that into their heads.

    There is a standard packet of quit smoking "advice" that's changed little in over 30 years. It's ironic how little the stats make a difference when it comes to a program that clearly doesn't work. Somehow they inflate the pathetic numbers to make it sound so much better than the actual results - sometimes in the fine print, most often not. It doesn't matter how many times a person has tried or what it's doing to them (Chantix).

    Some people just can't quit. There's been a number of times I've thought about getting one of those packets that are sent out in order to tear it apart. I know a standard suggestion is to change brands before the actual quit date so that the smoker is not addicted to the taste of their brand as well. Kind of like "flavors".
     
  11. GaryInTexas

    GaryInTexas Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    One of those certified counselors could have tied me to a tree and I would've smoked the bark. But when the option of strawberry and coconut and pineapple came along I went with them.
     
  12. sonicdsl

    sonicdsl Reviewers Mgr
    Asst Classifieds Mgr
    Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member


    [​IMG]
     
  13. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    My friend who is "certified" to help people quit is against vaping because she didn't need to vape to quit. She's more stubborn than usual about it too which is why I think the current program drills it into their heads.

    One of the things that will probably have to be proved in hindsight is that quitting today is not like quitting even a decade ago. Tobacco companies have admitted to adding things that make cigarettes more lethal, harder to quit than they were even in the 80's and 90's. The additives didn't up the nicotine content. There are also sub populations that are probably using nicotine for other reasons, a form of self-medication. As a substance, nicotine is poorly understood.
     
  14. GaryInTexas

    GaryInTexas Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I had not thought about the additives making it more addictive but I think your probably right.
     
  15. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Well nicotine acts as both a stimulant and has a calming effect at the same time. That's very unusual and not replacable with other medications.
     
  16. Kent C

    Kent C ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Focused and relaxed is like a 'zone' in sports (and other intense activities) - sometimes they're part of the same package, not opposites.
     
  17. Stosh

    Stosh Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Evidently took the Common Core course of study for "Health Educator"....:facepalm:
     
  18. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nicotine could be put on list of banned substances - Olympics - ESPN

     
  19. fishj

    fishj Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    As a retired English teacher, I am appalled by his lack of grammar, style,spelling, and intelligence.
     
  20. danfinger

    danfinger Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Interesting quote. I'm curious where it came from?

    I only ask because I've google searched the entire quote, and I've searched sentence by sentence for any part of the quote. Every google return sends me back to this posting. And nowhere else.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page