FDA The most ridiculous comment on the FDA deeming

[DrMA]

Some "Anonymous" "Health educator", "certified" to "teach smoking cessation" apparently cannot tell the difference between FDA and EPA, not once, but 3 times in his/her 4-line comment. This is the level of literacy among the base of our opposition.

PS: is that enough quotes and to convey my exact feelings on this comment?

As a Health Educator and someone certified to teach smoking cessation, many of my former students seem to believe that electronic cigarettes don't hurt you. Since the Tobbacco companies want them to beiieve that. I support the EPA's efforts at regulating all such tobbacco products. What my students don't realize is, that it doesn't matter how they receive their nicotine, it's still very habit forming and very difficult to recover that kind of addition. So, I say carry on EPA for the sake of my students and all the young people who believe that the E cigarettes don't hurt you and we need the EPA to regulate these products and demonstrate the harmful evidence to the public!

 

[Nermal]

He forgot the OSHA citation.

 

[Rickajho]

And that's tobbacco - spelled with two bb's. More than once even.

I was never good at math, but I do believe I recovered from my addition.

Yup, our youth sure do need more educators of that caliber. (I don't know whether to laugh or cry.)

 

[DrMA]

I'm starting to suspect s/he might be associated with Orange County Dept. of Education.

 

[Rickajho]

I'm starting to suspect s/he might be associated with Orange County Dept. of Education.

Dunno. I was thinking more along the lines of "troll." You can only be that wrong on purpose.

 

[aikanae1]

Well I've got a PHD then. I'm also 'certified' in spell check too.

 

[Anjaffm]

Hahahahaha Nice "educator" indeed

And yeah...

As a Health Educator and someone certified to teach smoking cessation

= conflict of interest. Pure and simple. People who use e-cigs do not go and spend good money on some "education". Especially not on some "education" from somebody who is obviously in dire need of some education themselves

We had this in Germany, one letter to the editor screamed about the oh-so-horrible dangers of e-cigs. From some doctor blabla, "Lung Specialist". - Yeah, a quick Google search found that the good doctor gives smoking cessation classes, at 200 Euro a pop. (1 Euro = 1.36 US$). No wonder the good doctor screamed about the oh-so-horrible dangers of his competition.

 

[Rickajho]

Just how does one become "certified to teach smoking cessation"? Can I buy that degree on-line? Do I just make a big donation to the American Cancer Society? Do you receive a BS in Cessation (yeah - I said a BS) from Smith-Kline University?

 

[FinchX]

I'm starting to suspect s/he might be associated with Orange County Dept. of Education.

AHAHA!!! I'm guessing you saw the notsosafe website as well??

 

[aikanae1]

Just how does one become "certified to teach smoking cessation"? Can I buy that degree on-line? Do I just make a big donation to the American Cancer Society? Do you receive a BS in Cessation (yeah - I said a BS) from Smith-Kline University?

I have a friend who is "certified". All the hotlines and quit smoking phone numbers go to "certified" (who knows what they are called) "counselors" for smokers who want to quit. She is one of these that quit smoking 20+ years ago and firmly believes because she "just did it" then anyone should be able to. The program looks for ex-smokers and I think it drills that into their heads.

There is a standard packet of quit smoking "advice" that's changed little in over 30 years. It's ironic how little the stats make a difference when it comes to a program that clearly doesn't work. Somehow they inflate the pathetic numbers to make it sound so much better than the actual results - sometimes in the fine print, most often not. It doesn't matter how many times a person has tried or what it's doing to them (Chantix).

Some people just can't quit. There's been a number of times I've thought about getting one of those packets that are sent out in order to tear it apart. I know a standard suggestion is to change brands before the actual quit date so that the smoker is not addicted to the taste of their brand as well. Kind of like "flavors".

 

[GaryInTexas]

One of those certified counselors could have tied me to a tree and I would've smoked the bark. But when the option of strawberry and coconut and pineapple came along I went with them.

 

[sonicdsl]

Some "Anonymous" "Health educator", "certified" to "teach smoking cessation" apparently cannot tell the difference between FDA and EPA, not once, but 3 times in his/her 4-line comment. This is the level of literacy among the base of our opposition.

PS: is that enough quotes and to convey my exact feelings on this comment?

 

[aikanae1]

My friend who is "certified" to help people quit is against vaping because she didn't need to vape to quit. She's more stubborn than usual about it too which is why I think the current program drills it into their heads.

One of the things that will probably have to be proved in hindsight is that quitting today is not like quitting even a decade ago. Tobacco companies have admitted to adding things that make cigarettes more lethal, harder to quit than they were even in the 80's and 90's. The additives didn't up the nicotine content. There are also sub populations that are probably using nicotine for other reasons, a form of self-medication. As a substance, nicotine is poorly understood.

 

[GaryInTexas]

I had not thought about the additives making it more addictive but I think your probably right.

 

[aikanae1]

Well nicotine acts as both a stimulant and has a calming effect at the same time. That's very unusual and not replacable with other medications.

 

[Kent C]

Well nicotine acts as both a stimulant and has a calming effect at the same time. That's very unusual and not replacable with other medications.

Focused and relaxed is like a 'zone' in sports (and other intense activities) - sometimes they're part of the same package, not opposites.

 

[Stosh]

Evidently took the Common Core course of study for "Health Educator"....

 

[DC2]

Focused and relaxed is like a 'zone' in sports (and other intense activities) - sometimes they're part of the same package, not opposites.

Nicotine could be put on list of banned substances - Olympics - ESPN

"WADA and sport federations should evaluate the inclusion of nicotine to the Prohibited List or/and Monitoring Program," the Lausanne lab reported after a year-long study published by the Forensic Science International journal. The performance-enhancing effects of nicotine included increased "vigilance and cognitive function," and reduced stress and body weight. "Interestingly, nicotine also triggers a significant increase of pulse rate, blood pressure, blood sugar and epinephrine release owing to simultaneous stimulant and relaxant properties," the report said.

 

[fishj]

As a retired English teacher, I am appalled by his lack of grammar, style,spelling, and intelligence.

 

[danfinger]

As a Health Educator and someone certified to teach smoking cessation, many of my former students seem to believe that electronic cigarettes don't hurt you. Since the Tobbacco companies want them to beiieve that. I support the EPA's efforts at regulating all such tobbacco products. What my students don't realize is, that it doesn't matter how they receive their nicotine, it's still very habit forming and very difficult to recover that kind of addition. So, I say carry on EPA for the sake of my students and all the young people who believe that the E cigarettes don't hurt you and we need the EPA to regulate these products and demonstrate the harmful evidence to the public!

Interesting quote. I'm curious where it came from?

I only ask because I've google searched the entire quote, and I've searched sentence by sentence for any part of the quote. Every google return sends me back to this posting. And nowhere else.