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There's some puuurdy stuff in this room.
My wife called me out for spending too much time on builds. I've been practicing 3 to 5 inch runs of alien. If it wasn't for my wife, I'd have sat down and done 2 7" pieces so I could get 2 coils.
I'm definitely getting better thanks to you guys.

I did this fused 26/34 with the drill wide open from start to finish...apparently speed AND proper tension is key to keeping the clapton from springing off the core.





This thing needs 130w, a small drip tip and the AFC just barely cracked to do what I want flavor wise...it's just too much wire to heat up in time.
 

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There's some puuurdy stuff in this room.
My wife called me out for spending too much time on builds. I've been practicing 3 to 5 inch runs of Alien. If it wasn't for my wife, I'd have sat down and done 2 7" pieces so I could get 2 coils.
I'm definitely getting better thanks to you guys.

I did this fused 26/34 with the drill wide open from start to finish...apparently speed AND proper tension is key to keeping the clapton from springing off the core.





This thing needs 130w, a small drip tip and the AFC just barely cracked to do what I want flavor wise...it's just too much wire to heat up in time.
Speed & tension are definitely factors in keeping everything clean. Also holding the spool whatever the comfortable length away from the core(s) is for you. I hold my spool like 12-18" away from the core when I clapton. Works out for me.

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SS is fully past color but the N80 is blue. I dont think I can ever get over the look of SS/N80 coloring together.

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Speed & tension are definitely factors in keeping everything clean. Also holding the spool whatever the comfortable length away from the core(s) is for you. I hold my spool like 12-18" away from the core when I clapton. Works out for me.

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SS is fully past color but the N80 is blue. I dont think I can ever get over the look of SS/N80 coloring together.

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Those are beautiful man!

I started going slow even with low gauges but now I get it started and run wide open...or untill the wire resonates.
But the distance from the wire is what got me there. If you're too close with the spool, the angle of the wire is more extreme than if you're 12" away so you can see you're going too slow before it overlaps.
I ordered some 316l monday. LV is pretty quick getting their stuff out. I just wish I had gotten some 38 and 40 to play with. Oh well. Between the n80 and SS, I should have plenty of fun.
I'm done with the shoulders on the pit, the chicken's been grilled and I'm thawing turkey now. Maybe I'll finally get to sit down and do an alien.

While I've got your attention Tom, I remember that 4 core alien you did so maybe you can help.
I've been having a harder time doing an alien with 3x 26 vs 2x 24...justadude said the 24 won't work but I feel like the hollow clapton feeds better onto the cores better. What's the easiest alien I can do? Is there a reason not to do 2x 24?
I'd be lost without you and Slippy. I really appreciate all your help, this stuff is hard for me. I've not even been doing clapton for a month yet I don't think.
 

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Those are beautiful man!

I started going slow even with low gauges but now I get it started and run wide open...or untill the wire resonates.
But the distance from the wire is what got me there. If you're too close with the spool, the angle of the wire is more extreme than if you're 12" away so you can see you're going too slow before it overlaps.
I ordered some 316l monday. LV is pretty quick getting their stuff out. I just wish I had gotten some 38 and 40 to play with. Oh well. Between the n80 and SS, I should have plenty of fun.
I'm done with the shoulders on the pit, the chicken's been grilled and I'm thawing turkey now. Maybe I'll finally get to sit down and do an alien.

While I've got your attention Tom, I remember that 4 core alien you did so maybe you can help.
I've been having a harder time doing an alien with 3x 26 vs 2x 24...justadude said the 24 won't work but I feel like the hollow clapton feeds better onto the cores better. What's the easiest alien I can do? Is there a reason not to do 2x 24?
I'd be lost without you and Slippy. I really appreciate all your help, this stuff is hard for me. I've not even been doing clapton for a month yet I don't think.

Easiest IMO & the first alien I got down properly was a 2x24g stitched. I forget the wrap gauge but it was a triple 40g stitch. The stitch acted like a guide with the right stretch & kept everything aligned.
And trust me when I say that a 3 core with a normal wrap is much different than a 3 core alien. A 3 core non alien will want to bunch up on you more frequently but the way the alien wrap is curved keeps the cores parallel a little bit better.
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^Pics from a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Trip 40 stitch over 2x24g cores.

Edit: lepyisms on instagram spins up everything at 20k rpm. He uses some contraption with a foot pedal. His wire resonates haha. My drill is a corded harbor and freight with a 3k rpm max. I go full blast for most things now. Most things besides stagger fusing.
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I did 6" of alien wire today. 2x 24 with a 34 wrap. I took it to my friends house to show him and I lost it. Lol.
It's ok, can't do much with one coil.

So I got home and tried a big piece...I'm running low on 34 n80 so I tried 36. Fail.
I think I was just doing too long of a piece. If the decored clapton has alot of length touching the ground it will twist up. So I had to stop and etc...
So I think I'm going to try 10" or so at a time.
I'm going to try with 32 too. It was much harder to do the 36 than 34...it has to be just so or it messes up. I had a really easy time doing the 34. Once it was going I could go faster and faster.
I had an adrenaline rush doing it! I was so excited.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
 
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I did 6" of alien wire today. 2x 24 with a 34 wrap. I took it to my friends house to show him and I lost it. Lol.
It's ok, can't do much with one coil.

So I got home and tried a big piece...I'm running low on 34 n80 so I tried 36. Fail.
I think I was just doing too long of a piece. If the decored clapton has alot of length touching the ground it will twist up. So I had to stop and etc...
So I think I'm going to try 10" or so at a time.
I'm going to try with 32 too. It was much harder to do the 36 than 34...it has to be just so or it messes up. I had a really easy time doing the 34. Once it was going I could go faster and faster.
I had an adrenaline rush doing it! I was so excited.
Thanks again for all the help guys.

I know how messed up a decored Clapton can get. I also don't stretch mine out so far & hold them about a foot away from the drill. The worst is when the end or a section of it gets caught in the carpet and pulls too much tension and flattens out the wrap.
When I first went up from 34g-36g alien wraps it was a big adjustment for me as well. However keep this in mind; 36gN80 is thinner and will stretch easier so go slow at first and see how much tension you need to hold across the entire wrap. Also lead the wire at like a 15° angle from the cores. If the wrap is kept perpendicular it has more of a chance at overlapping or bunching up.

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I was doing some alien practice today and the wire kept snagging on the way up. Once on my pants and another on the carpet but I did get some good practice in.
34 is the way to go for me. I have an excess of 36 and it's harder to get down so thats what I've been using.
After that I tried my hand at a framed staple...
My camera isn't good enough to get a good shot between the clapton. :nah:

Either way I only had time left to make one piece.
It's 6x 0.5 with 28 gauge frames.
I was afraid it would come out really low for dual coils but this is only a few wraps at 3.5mm and came out to 0.44 so I can definately run these in the Cthulhu.

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This thing vapes pretty well for a single coil. More vapor and flavor than a Griffin 25 can do. That's saying alot because the Cthulhu has a ridiculous amount of room in the chamber. I don't use the single coil portion because it's usually underwhelming compared to the dual deck.
 
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I was doing some alien practice today and the wire kept snagging on the way up. Once on my pants and another on the carpet but I did get some good practice in.
34 is the way to go for me. I have an excess of 36 and it's harder to get down so thats what I've been using.
After that I tried my hand at a framed staple...
My camera isn't good enough to get a good shot between the clapton. :nah:

Either way I only had time left to make one piece.
It's 6x 0.5 with 28 gauge frames.
I was afraid it would come out really low for dual coils but this is only a few wraps at 3.5mm and came out to 0.44 so I can definately run these in the Cthulhu.

Proof:





This thing vapes pretty well for a single coil. More vapor and flavor than a Griffin 25 can do. That's saying alot because the Cthulhu has a ridiculous amount of room in the chamber. I don't use the single coil portion because it's usually underwhelming compared to the dual deck.
Nice build!
I work through the same problems with aliens as you do. Wire snagging on carpet. It gets super annoying. Definitely use some 34g if you think it'll be easier, & try using about 7-8" of decore to start out with. A shorter length may be easier to get down at first.
Another thing you could do is start out over a fraple core. Like 4ply .4 framed by 26g. It comes out to roughly the same size as 3x26g cores if you factor in the diameter of 26 at .405mm.
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Just some parallaliens.
4x 28g/36g all SS para to
3x 30g/40g all N80.

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Beautiful man. What's the load on that build?

My Alien is getting better. I finally got one coil done. I end up getting whiskey throttle when it's going good and the mistake happens long after I can stop it.
I am getting there though so I'm ok.

I did find a solution to snags. I have to lay the wire some what straight either at my feet or over the shoulder. Take the end piece and straighten an inch or so and fold electrical tape over it, smash it with pliers and cut away eveything but a little shell around the wire. I've not has a snag since.

Oh, I don't have any neo magnets but a paperclip works really well too. ;)
 

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Alright, I've finally got some Aliens. Like Tom said, I think I'll try a framed staple with an alien wrap next. I found out that if you stretch it just right, you don't need tension on it. Should keep my cores from bunching up. Not enough stretch even on a 2 core alien will put a hard twist in the wire. I've got a much better feel for it now.
I was just trying to go too fast on my previous attempts.

I'll probably try a 3x 26 alien next. I tried that before the 24 gauge but I wasn't stretching enough so the wire all triangled.
The stretching problem is amplified using 32 awg wrap.

Either way, here it is. 2x 24 with 32:





You'll have to click on them to see. Sorry. Photobucket isn't working and imageshack is crap.
 

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Beautiful man. What's the load on that build?

My Alien is getting better. I finally got one coil done. I end up getting whiskey throttle when it's going good and the mistake happens long after I can stop it.
I am getting there though so I'm ok.

I did find a solution to snags. I have to lay the wire some what straight either at my feet or over the shoulder. Take the end piece and straighten an inch or so and fold electrical tape over it, smash it with pliers and cut away eveything but a little shell around the wire. I've not has a snag since.

Oh, I don't have any neo magnets but a paperclip works really well too. ;)
Be careful throwing it over your shoulder, it gets snagged on fabric easily too. The decore, not just the end. Also, why not go slow?
My buddy makes aliens with maximum stretch. I don't like to do it that way because the piece of decore goes from 18" to like 12 feet. So I use tension to wrap.
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These guys came in at .05Ω.
Pretty low but the flavor and the clouds are awesome. I use it on my para boxes or my DNA Rolo.

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Like I said before, I get whiskey throttle on the trigger.
Whiskey throttle is when you're riding a rocket or a dirt bike, get scared and hold the throttle wide open. Lol
Going slow is much easier. You can hear the wire pop just before it overlaps.

I'm so nervous when doing the aliens I actually have to remind myself to breathe. I get an adrenaline rush doing it.
It'll go away, claptons were the same way.

I might skip the 3x 26 and do the 4x 0.4 with 26 for frames. I like pretty coils but I'm trying to get something that vapes better than what I've been doing. Idk. I get off at 12 today so I have plenty of time.
Oh, I took your advice Tom. Before I tried my alien coils, I practiced with 5" of decore first. I got it 3 times in a row so I went for it.

I have a question though. If you're making your clapton for an alien and overlap it, reverse and keep going, will the metal remember those "wiggles" in the wire and have an effect on your final alien?
 
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