The "Newish" Member Contest for Awareness: Part V

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  1. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The prize
    $50 worth of juice orders from any vendor (or combination of vendors) of your choice.
    However, all shipping charges will be paid from the $50 prize amount.

    The duration of the contest
    There will be a new winner every two-week contest period until I decide to discontinue for some reason.

    Who is eligible
    The contest is open to members who have been here six months or less as of the beginning of a given contest period.
    So if a contest period starts on any given day in January then anyone with a Join Date of August or later will be eligible.

    The contest is open to members who have not yet won in any of the previous two-week contest periods.
    In other words, once you win, you are no longer eligible for future contest periods.

    How to play
    There will be seven questions during each two-week contest period.
    The date and time of the next question to be answered will be posted in this thread.

    The first person to correctly answer that question will get one point.
    The person with the most points at the end of each two week contest period will be the winner for that contest period.

    In the case of a tie, a tiebreaker question will be asked, which will probably be harder than the other questions.
    :)

    Where the questions will come from
    The questions will be based on threads from the "Legislative News" and the "Media and General News" subforums.
    There may, however, also be some questions related to CASAA (and information on their website) as well.

    And finally, there may also be questions related to the information presented in the first contest period.
    That information is summarized in the post that follows this one.

    If you post an answer that does not originate from one of the above places, it will not be accepted.
    That's because this is not intended to be a Google scavenger hunt.


    When the contest begins
    This contest period will begin on Thursday, January 19th at 11am Pacific Time.
    The first question will be asked at that time, and the date and time of the next question will also be posted.


    Why?
    The idea is to make people aware of the issues we face as vapers, and to show them that we can make a difference.
    Hopefully many new members will be encouraged to get involved, at the very time they are the most enthusiastic!
    :)

    And here is a little hint
    The more you keep up with the News subforums, the more likely you will be to win eventually.
    I will be working towards coming up with questions that can be answered fairly quickly if you already know where to look.

    As noted previously, this isn't intended to be like a scavenger hunt, but more like a way to encourage ongoing involvement.

    One final note
    If this contest doesn't sound like your kind of thing, that's okay.
    But if EVERY VAPER would read the next post, then this whole contest idea will have been worth it.


    So please, take some time when you can and read it through.
    It contains almost all the information a vaper needs to know about the issues we face.

    Whether or not you have the time or resources to help, at least the information will help you answer questions.
    And we all know we get lots of questions!!
     
  2. DC2

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    Information from the first question of the first contest period
    Well, in order to understand where things stand with electronic cigarettes and the issues that we face as vapers, it is necessary to understand some of the history. It is necessary to understand where we've come from, and what we have overcome so far, in order to have a solid understanding of where we are heading and why.

    So, the first question is about what might have been.

    There is a landmark case in electronic cigarette history that, in essence, prevented what would have been a de facto ban on electronic cigarettes. In this case, the FDA was prevented from any further efforts to confiscate electronic cigarette shipments based on their insistance that they were unapproved drug delivery devices. The judge ruled in this case that the companies that sell electronic cigarettes do not claim to be selling a quit-smoking device, but rather an alternative to tobacco cigarettes.

    Here are a couple of links that can bring you up to speed on the history of this case...
    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ut-why-do-we-need-watch-how-get-up-speed.html
    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...174-se-njoy-vs-fda-court-dockets-updates.html


    Information from the second question of the first contest period
    Now let's take a look at who else opposes electronic cigarettes...

    During the trial discussed in the previous question, a number of organizations came out in support of the FDA position that electronic cigarettes were unnapproved drug delivery devices which should be removed from the market. On April 27, 2010, a number of the organizations filed a Motion with the Court requesting Leave to participate as amicus curiae in support of the FDA.

    Please note that all of the following organizations participated in this motion...
    --American Cancer Society (ACS)
    --American Heart Association (AHA)
    --American Lung Association (ALA)
    --American Medical Assocation (AMA)
    --Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids (CTFK)


    Information from the third question of the first contest period
    CASAA is a non-profit organization formed by (and made up of) members of this forum, and the case discussed in the previous questions was essentially where it all began. Frustrated and feeling powerless to do anything while the fate of electronic cigarettes was being decided before our eyes, we decided to fight back...

    A nomination process was begun, and a list of those with the most nominations was created. Those nominees that were willing to participate then posted their argument for why they would make a good CASAA board member, and an election was held right here on the forum. And from this effort CASAA was born. We the People stepped up and, represented by CASAA, joined other groups in filing our own amicus brief with the court. And that was only the beginning of the work that CASAA continues to do, by us as vapers and for us as vapers.

    The question for today is, what was the most recent Call To Action listed on the CASAA website?
    Emergency Message for Northern California E-cigarette Users

    And what was the final outcome of that legislation with respect to the fate of electronic cigarettes?
    The Alameda City Council voted 5-0 to approve the new smokefree ordinance, but removed electronic cigarettes!


    And because I really, really hope everyone reading this will support CASAA in their efforts, here are some links...
    Join CASAA: CASAA | Member Signup
    Support CASAA: CASAA.org
    Help CASAA fight: CASAA.org


    Information from the fourth question of the first contest period
    There are many battles to be fought in our efforts to retain our ability to use electronic cigarettes, and to use them freely.

    One of the strategies of those who oppose electronic cigarettes is to get them included in smoking bans. CASAA and other members of this forum keep us well-informed in the Legislative News subforums when these actions are attempted by local government agencies such as City Councils or Boards of Health.

    But another, more disturbing trend is taking place, and that is what this question will focus on.

    Recently, a hospital in Virginia initiated a policy on November 30th that they will no longer hire people who test positive for nicotine during pre-employment screening. This policy discriminates against not only smokers, but also people using nicotine gum, the patch, lozenges, or nicotine inhalers in an effort to quit smoking. And of course, it also discriminates against those using electronic cigarettes that contain nicotine.

    Also recently, a medical university made a similar announcement about a policy they intend to enforce beginning in March of next year. The new rules say faculty, students and volunteers won’t even be allowed to smoke in personal vehicles parked on their property. To make matters worse, patients and visitors also must comply, and vendors who smoke on the job could have their contracts terminated. The new policy also forbids electronic cigarettes and other smokeless tobacco products in addition to cigarettes, cigars and pipes.

    But in order to illustrate the difference that even simple actions can sometimes make, an employee who works for the hospital and uses an electronic cigarette got the attention of the local newpaper when he wrote an email to the President of the university. The response to the email was promising, although it remains to be seen if any changes to the policy will take place before it goes into effect. But history has shown that when we inform policymakers of the facts about smokeless alternatives, we are often able to change the outcome, so there is hope here.


    Information from the fifth question of the first contest period
    In previous questions we've looked at some of the groups that oppose electronic cigarettes, and how CASAA was formed in part to help counter that opposition. Soon I will probably get to examples of the difference that individual members of this forum have made to counter various bans being proposed around the country. But this question will focus on someone who comes from a different angle. He is a member of this forum with over 1000 posts, but does not use any tobacco products as far as I know...

    His name is William T. Godshall and he is the Executive Director of Smokefree Pennsylvania. On this forum he goes by Bill Godshall, and you can't hardly read the Legislative News subforum without stumbling over a few of his posts. He is very much for non-smokers rights, and for that some people here consider him an anti-smoker and aren't always pleased with him. He has worked with politicians and health organizations to help draft legislation to promote non-smokers rights, pass no-smoking bans, and raise taxes on cigarettes. But where he differs from our opposition is in the fact that he is one of a slowly growing number of tobacco control people who believe very strongly in harm reduction. And he knows how the system works, because he has been a part of it for a very long time now. He is also currently serving as an advisor to CASAA.

    Below is one of the best articles discussing who opposes electronic cigarettes, and Mr. Godshall is quoted within...
    A Tool to Quit Smoking Has Some Unlikely Critics


    Information from the sixth question of the first contest period
    Most new vapers assume that Big Tobacco is funding the fight against electronic cigarettes. But in reality, it is the non-profit health organizations that are behind most efforts to curtail the use of electronic cigarettes. Even when the FDA stepped in and began confiscating shipments of electronic cigarettes, it was at the urging of these non-profit health organizations.

    But why? You would think that the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association would embrace electronic cigarettes. You would think that the Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights and the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids would be thrilled that a product finally exists that could help stamp out smoking. Well the answers, as usual, can be found by simply following the money.

    First there is the money from the Master Settlement Agreement, and then there is the money from cigarette taxes. Much of this money goes to help organizations run anti-smoking campaigns. Many of these organizations would cease to exist if nobody smoked cigarettes any more. But there is another very large source of cash to help fund these organizations, and it comes from Big Pharma. Electronic cigarettes are a direct threat to their multi-billion dollar sales of nearly useless quit-smoking products.

    From the following article, which anti-smoking organization was actually created by the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation?
    The New Corporate American Business Model


    Information from the seventh question of the first contest period
    This contest was intended to be based on the Electronic Cigarette News subforums, namely the Media and General News subforum and the Legislative News subforum. And while it actually has been based on information that can be found in those subforums for the most part, some of it was from posts and threads from further back than most new members would have encountered. And yes, I am going to do it one more time, because there is one last piece of the puzzle I want to lay down for groundwork.

    This question will be about something I spoke of briefly in a recent question... the small but growing number of "harm reduction" people who are at odds with the general Tobacco Control community that opposes electronic cigarettes. There are names like Brad Rodu, Joel Nitzkin, Bill Godshall, Riccardo Polosa, Elizabeth Whelan, Carl Phillips, Murray Laugesen, and Paul Bergen. But this question will focus on yet another person who has stepped up and out of the shadows of Tobacco Control to speak the truth...

    Dr. Michael Siegel recently co-authored a study that goes perhaps further than any other to date in exonerating electronic cigarettes from claims of possible harm caused to users or bystanders. This study should be read by all vapers, and it's conclusions should be understood by anyone who agrees with the concept of harm reduction. It showed that there has never been anything that has ever been found in the vapor of electronic cigarettes that is cause for alarm. It is the best tool to date, in my opinion, to quiet all the speculation of possible harm by those who wish to see electronic cigarettes be made less available.

    And here is a link to that study...
    Electronic cigarettes as a harm reduction strategy for tobacco control: A step forward or a repeat of past mistakes?
     
  3. TheTrulyInsane

    TheTrulyInsane Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    "The first person to correctly answer that question will get one point."

    Basically anyone with a Job is ineligible for this one, problem with running a contest in this manner is that if we are at work, we can't answer the questions "first" to get the points.. so, ty, but I guess I'm skipping this contest
     
  4. DC2

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    You have a better idea?

    I'm all ears.
    :)

    In fact, in the first contest I offered $50 to anyone with any improvements.
    There were no takers.
     
  5. TheTrulyInsane

    TheTrulyInsane Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    How about you grant the point to each person that answers correctly, and then the person with the most points at the end wins, if it's a tie you can do a tie breaker question or use the random number generator to pick one.. just the way you're suggesting here makes it nearly impossible for anyone who isn't in front of the machine waiting for the question at all times, a chance at any points, much less the ability to get enough points to win..

    And to prevent 'cheating' perhaps have them PM you the answers, so they can't copy another's.. then post the correct answer and the people who got it when you decide to end that question

    I realize it's more work, but to get the most people involved in a situation like this, you have to work around people's work schedules :)
     
  6. DC2

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    I considered that at first, but thought there would be some problems with that approach.

    I guess the main issue is that given enough time anyone can find the answer.
    I'm trying to encourage people to get involved and stay involved, not just search for answers.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. DC2

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    Oops, didn't mean to submit yet...
     
  8. sandybeach

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    Tobacco products scientific committee. Dissolvable tobacco products
     
  9. DC2

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    I accidentally posted the question for a few seconds about an hour ago, and sandybeach (to her credit) not only saw the question posted, but got the correct answer. Therefore, I am going to award Sandybeach one point and I will ask another question (related to the original question) for those that were waiting until the 11am PST designated question time.

    So here is the original question, but DO NOT ANSWER IT because I will follow this post with another related question

    As part of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (FSPTCA) the FDA has been charged with the task of regulating tobacco products. The FSPTCA also required that a committee be formed to advise the FDA regarding any new regulations that might be established under the FSPTCA. The purpose of this committee, as intended, is to inject as much "science" as possible into the equation by providing such information for the FDA to consider.

    There is currently a series of meetings being held by this committee, and this two-part question will be related to those meetings...

    1) What is the name of this committee?
    2) What tobacco product is the subject of this series of meetings?
     
  10. DC2

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    This is the new first question...

    What are the dates and times of the three meetings to be held in this series?

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  11. Newwell

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    Tobacco Product Scientific Advisory Committee meeting is January 18-20, 2012. 18th- 2-5 PM; 19th- 8 am-5 pm; 20th - 8 am - 4 pm
    FDA's plans to apply Tobacco regs. to E-cigarettes maybe but dissolvables is the main issue
     
  12. DC2

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    That is close enough Newell, so one point for you!!
    :)
     
  13. DC2

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    So we have a tie so far, one point for Newell and one point for sandybeach.
    There are still six questions left in this contest period.

    And wow did I ever screw that one up!!

    Anyway, as promised, here is the information on how to possibly see Elaine and Bill speak...

     
  14. Newwell

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    I'm excited !!!
    I am going to watch the webcast. I'm assuming it's EST.
     
  15. DC2

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    Since Bill posted the times of the meetings as EST, I also assume the public comments will be EST as well.
    :)
     
  16. sandybeach

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    what are dissolvables?
     
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    I hope we aren't waiting until July 21st to do the next question. :D
     
  20. DC2

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    I seriously think I need a vacation.
    :lol:

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