The warmer weather \ leaking

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  1. Zildjian

    Zildjian Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yesterday went to a buddies to help him stain his deck. Brought my Russian 91 on my mech mod, and my Vivi Nova on my VV/VW ego.

    Left the Russian in my car inside my backpack pocket as this was just to heavy to use whilst staining.

    After about 5 hours when I went home, I went to take out my Russian, and I could smell the juice. I thought to myself Oh no my juice leaked, and sure enough it did. I leaked about 1.5 to 2 ML (I could tell by how much was left in the tank) out of the air hole.

    It has never leaked before, and did not leak once I whipped it off, and got it home.

    I have heard of pressure changes making them leak such as with a plane trip or climbing Mt. Everest :).

    Has anyone had this happen to them, or was this just a fluke? It wasn't even that hot out only about 80, and probably about 90-95 inside the car.
     
  2. Lurch

    Lurch Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Temps inside a car on an 80 degree day can easily reach 120 degrees. Juice is liquid that is thinned by higher heats. I live in Florida, I don't leave my juice inside the car....

    I would bet that one of your o rings leaked the juice...
     
  3. Porkchop081

    Porkchop081 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    i have had this happen to me with my Kayfuns and ProTanks. Pressure builds inside the tanks from the heat and pushes fluid out the air intake. Try storing them upside down if you know they are going to be in the heat, works well for me.
     
  4. Zildjian

    Zildjian Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    It leaked from my air hole.

    Thanks Porkchop that makes sense. I just noticed that the juice running from that leak messed up the Petina on my Brass King. So pissed right now.

    "I live in Florida" Go Dolphins :)
     
  5. patkin

    patkin Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Wow... thanks for that upside-down tip! Why didn't I think of that.:facepalm:
     
  6. Jugband

    Jugband Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I had a simpler experience a little over a year ago. I had a vivi nova on an ego battery. It was a hot summer day, I tossed the set up in my glovebox. I was gone for a couple of hours, when I got back juice had leaked out everywhere! I believe it will happen in high temps with any setup. The heat causes the e liquid to thin.
     
  7. Bernard Marx

    Bernard Marx Moved On ECF Veteran

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    I left mine in the sun and for some reason when I puffed I actually slurped a mouthful of juice.
     
  8. Zildjian

    Zildjian Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well I think your right, as I just did a refresh rebuild because it started to leak again. New rebuild leaked as well.
    I'm thinking one of the O rings went and now air is getting in there, thus causing the leak. Now to figure out which one it is.
     
  9. Cool-breeze

    Cool-breeze Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I don't know of any setup immune to the heat. The kf is more resilient than most though.
     
  10. PaulBHC

    PaulBHC Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Top coil atomizers like the vivi nova shouldn't leak from pressure change caused by temp or altitude but could if lying down. Temp can thin the liquid but still should be ok if upright. Bottom coil toppers need to be kept upside down when not in use in a vehicle.
     
  11. jswag5

    jswag5 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    when i leave any bottom coil tank in the car i make sure it is turned upside down, i still may leak some depending the condition of o-rings and how full it is, but it helps a lot
     
  12. Tinkiegrrl

    Tinkiegrrl Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hot cars are a definite no for these things I've determined. If unavoidable, then storing them upside down makes sense for a bottom coil. I'm bracing myself for summer. Also pulled the trigger on an Erlkonigin. It's an RTA similar to a Kayfun, but with a special juice feeding system that is supposed to somewhat alleviate issues with large shifts in pressure and temperature. Hopefully it works!
     
  13. omyeyes

    omyeyes Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    When I go to the pool and it's 104+, I bring a lil' ice pack and a small bag to keep my mods in when not using them. Just don't keep them directly next to the ice pack.
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  14. PaulBHC

    PaulBHC Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    I have a tote similar to that one that I carry daily to work with an ice pack and holders for my extra tanks. The holders are old pill bottles inside a Spam can.

    I'm finding that it is not up to keeping cold now that it is over 100 and must find something better.
     
  15. ppeeble

    ppeeble Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ever hear the one about someone heating up a battery to see what happens ?
    In the last two weeks here in the UK we have had lovely, sunny hot weather. One of my friends who vapes left her Innokin vw set up in her car for 3 days. It stopped working.
    Another of my friends left his smartphone in his car for 3 HOURS. Came back to use it and the battery had ruined the phone. When he took the battery out it had swollen up to 1" thick. Luckily the battery was in some sort of LiPo bag coating so didn't explode.
    By all means store kayfuns and the like upside down when not in use but don't leave batteries in cars. Please.
     
  16. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yep, I've found that with the kayfuns juice will seep out the air hole on a hot day, 90+. It doesn't even have to be left in a car, it can happen in your pocket too. Learned that the hard way. Storing upside down helps a lot.
     
  17. skoony

    skoony Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    its not so much the pressure changes that cause leaking as much as its the viscosity between the juice in the wicks and the juice in the tank equalising. if you top off your tank when they equalise the wicks will suck up the juice like a straw and flood the coil chamber.
    some juice will do this in a new set up. some will do this after the juice in the wicks has thickened over time. some will never do this.
    i use top coil tanks only so my recommendation will not work for bottom coil systems. if you start experiencing flooding issues fill the tank to the second fill marker below full. this has eliminated 100 % of my flooding issues and, 90 % of any gurgling problems. you can adjust from there. i personally do this all the time as i'm to lazy to track which juice is more inclined to do this as opposed to another. i hope this helps.

    regards
    mike
     
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