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Throat and sinus infection

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  1. mrog

    mrog New Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    Hi I am brand new to the forum. I have been vaping for about two and a half weeks. I got my starter kit in the hopes that it would help me and my girlfriend cut back on smoking analogs. It has worked wonders for me, but my girlfriend complained that it hurt her throat and would only take a couple drags at a time. I thought that maybe she was being irritated by the pg so I ordered some vg carts. After finding a flavor that she liked, last night she vaped vg on and off for about two to three hours before going to bed. My girlfriend woke up with a really sore throat, fever, headache, stomach pains, etc. She went to the doctor today and the doctor said she has a throat and sinus infection. Has anyone ever heard of ecigs causing infections like this? Or is it most likely a coincidence? Any info would be greatly appreciated!
  2. bobtow

    bobtow Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2009
    Wallaceburg ON. Canada
    I haven't heard of it.Could be coincidenlal. If you scroll down a bit you will see a pane , Forum Jump. There is a section that covers health and medical issues. Maybe that could give you some answers. Hope your friend recovers soon.
  3. mrog

    mrog New Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    Thanks I'll see if I can find anything there.
  4. mrog

    mrog New Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    I know I should have posted this in the health and medical issues, but I believe I can only post in the new members section since my post count is really low.
  5. CaptJay

    CaptJay Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 3, 2010
    A Brit, abroad, (USA)
    Its really not likely that a mechancial device would cause a bacterial infection unless it wasn't clean to begin wth - but I'm fairly sure bacteria can't live long outside of a host organism.
    Did anyone else who used the kit (if indeed anyone did - that includes anyone who handled it - may not have puffed on it) recently have a cold/flu/illness?
    Its possible she picked up the bug from another (recent)user who hasn't developed any symptoms or is immune to that strain also if anyone else DID use it prior to her using it.
    Moral to others: wash mouthpieces regularly! :)
    Other than that, I'd put it down to coincidence or bad luck. Hope she feels better soon - sinus infection is horrid.
  6. Metstoo

    Metstoo Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 12, 2010
    Central Florida
    Sounds like it came on sorta fast for it to have been caused by the vaping? In any case, the vaping probably did irritate an existing condition. It high allergy season right now and sinus/ear infections are pretty common. Drink lotsa water and try some saline rinses...
  7. December Moon

    December Moon Full Member

    Mar 11, 2010
    Depending on where you are, at this time of year I would call it a coincidence. The pollen count has been up pretty high where I am, plus another round of h1n1 is out and about.

    She should probably not reuse carts while she is sick... that could just perpetuate or spread the cold. Drink fluids.
  8. Lab

    Lab Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2009
    never seen a post of anyone getting a sinus infection..

    as for the sore throat that is a common effect that ppl get.. because the glycerin drains you of fluids.. increase the amount of water you drink.. and cloriceptic spray works to help
  9. The Gentleman Cannibal

    The Gentleman Cannibal Full Member

    Mar 3, 2010
    Brooklyn, NY
    A friend back in school said that every time he tried to quit he got a respiratory ailment of some kind (bronchitis was the norm). I don't know the validity of his claim was, but I guess it might be possible. But more like than not it's just a coincidence. No idea on your location, but the transition from winter to spring can bring about all kinds of fun sinus issues.
  10. 316lvm

    316lvm Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 5, 2009
    southern minnesota
    Hi mrog -

    I posted quit a while back with the same issues. I had been vapping for about a month when I got a sinus infection and "pink eye".

    After medication, the sinus infection healed. The "pink eye" is another story. (I received drops for this and had been using it for about a month with little improvement.)

    What I have noticed, and I believe, at least for me, is that when I vape, and blow the vapor in front of me, most of the vapor goes up inside my glasses. Since the vapor doesn't sting like cig smoke, I never connected the two actions until recently.

    Now, since I've been blowing the vapor out the side of my mouth, I haven't had a problem with sinuses, throat irritation. My eyes aren't gunky either and are a lot better than before. Another thing I noticed is that I was getting white heads on my nose from the vapor being blown in front of me. When I stopped doing that, no white heads on the nose.

    Check and see if your girlfriend is blowing the vapor in front of her face. If so, try blowing it out the side of the mouth and see if that doesn't help.
  11. dark cobra

    dark cobra Full Member

    Feb 2, 2010
    Theres a strong possibility that she did not even have a reaction to PG or VG but simply started feeling the first signs of the upcoming infection but it is possible that IF she did have a reaction to PG, it helped the infection getting started.
    Basically our saliva acts as a mini defense against alot of bacteria and such and if PG did irritate her throat and sinuses, all it did is open the door for a bacteria to set up. They tend to have an easier time finding a home in irritated tissues.
    Keep in mind im paranoid so when stuff like that happens to me, i look around for the "why" and "how" too hoping i can prevent it happening again. In this case, there are so few if any reports of things like this happening that i'd probably go with "PG caused irritation, lack of hydration, lil bacteria or what not that simply happened to be around at that time went *ZOMG, PARTY ZONE!* and went for it.
    Theres also the possibility that VG is the one she has a reaction to.
    A lot of people confuse a PG reaction with the adaptation time. At first it used to itch and burn a bit for me so i dropped pg and went all out VG then tried PG again a couple weeks later and it still itched and burned but hey, i was out of VG juice so i just followed the advices i read here about drinking a LOT while vaping to keep my throat well hydrated and 1-3 days later, tada! Now i do VG/PG mix but the VG is only to get more vapor :)

    If there was a big gap between her stopping PG and starting VG (which would most likely mean that IF one of them was to blame, it'd be VG), what you can do if she seriously wants to switch to vaping is try 100% PG again but make sure to tell her to drink alot while vaping and that if it still irritates her throat, to instead of directly inhaling the vapor down her lungs, to drag some vapor in her mouth and THEN breath that mouthfull. This is an AWFUL lot smoother on the throat. Alot of people like that irritation effect but if she's anything like me, she'll prefer the mouth then breath method :)
  12. crystal2011

    crystal2011 New Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Salt Lake City
    Hi i just started my e cigarette like a few days ago and 2 days after i get it i wake up with a realllly bad sinus infection. I have body aches right now and just feel sick. When i smoke my e cig i can tell its not right because it burns my throat and just is unbearable to smoke really. I am smokin 12-18 mg of nicotine..maybe its too much? i dunno but a regular cigarette sure does sound good right now.
  13. swedishfish

    swedishfish Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 28, 2010
  14. blue8091

    blue8091 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2011
    Vape Town
    I suffered from sinus infections my whole life - and I know they were largely caused by smoking analogs. My water intake was never good. Vaping changed the whole outlook on water intake for me and I'm really focused on getting in at least 8-8oz glasses of water daily and usually more like 70. Drinking lots of water with vaping is hugely important.

    For the last year and half I used a neti pot - and have not had a sinus infection since. I've also stepped that up and doing it daily - also helps with allergies. What's really weird - is that it's been 2 weeks since I had an analog and my sinuses - even with the water intake and neti pot - are really dryyyyy. Not sure why - but I've noticed it for sure!
  15. Lambch3p

    Lambch3p Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 5, 2011
    Sunny Tampa Florida
    It takes about 2 weeks to incubate a sinus infection, cold or flu. If you have only been vaping for a few days there is no way that your e-cig gave you an infection. there are a few reasons your throat may hurt:
    1. Your throat hurts because you are sick, not from your e-cig but from germs and your e-cig is exacerbating the problem.
    2. You are vaping too high nic.
    3. Your juice has too much pg. If you add more vg to your juice it softens the throat hit and keeps your throat from getting all scratchy.

    Hope you feel better! :)
  16. sluz

    sluz Full Member

    Apr 25, 2011
    My girlfriend I had a similar reaction to VG only juices from Blue Mist vaping. I made a mistake in ordering, I meant to get 80/20. They would instantly hurt a bit in the back of our throats, and it was a different pain than the normal throat hit, and would stay for minutes afterward. I think I started to get an infection from them. When I first started vaping, I got a bacterial infection as well. Antibiotics cleared it up even though the test came back negative for strep (though it was only the in-office test, not a lab test, which is more accurate).

    Now I have traded those for some 80/20 juices (or at least they vape like them, you know, you can never be absolutely sure) and they don't feel like the VG, but I have another infection. My throat started hurting badly a day ago, and I just took a good look in the mirror, and sure enough, there are white patches at the back of my throat. My girlfriend wants me to quit vaping right now, and while I really don't want to, I'm thinking it's not a bad idea. I'm not sure what's going on, but vaping is having a deleterious effect on my throat. It might simply be the direct contact with the nicotine, somehow the chemicals in cigarettes seemed to shield me from it, because I never EVER had problems like this while smoking.

    I really don't know what to do, but I think the best course of action is to chew Nicorette and try the patch. I don't want to screw around with bacterial infections.
  17. mlinky

    mlinky ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2010
    You can't get a bacterial infection from "vaping" unless your equipment or juice is contaminated. You could potentially be getting some irritation that has become infected, in which case, you need to stop vaping or figure out what is irritating you.
  18. sluz

    sluz Full Member

    Apr 25, 2011
    I think it's doubtful too. I think it's the nicotine, though the VG reaction was just weird. Those were only 18mg juices, so it had to have been the VG. I hate to quit vaping, but I don't think I have a choice.
  19. dormouse

    dormouse ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 31, 2010
    BTW except in very rare cases, PG does not irritate except for possibly being drying so a vaper should drink fluids. PG is used in inhalation therapies in hospitals, even for lung transplant patients. But nicotine is a skin irritant and PG does little to buffer that. VG is thick and dull TH, irritation, flavor, while adding more visible vapor. It is possible for medium or high nic on 100% PG to irritate the mouth, throat, lungs, nose. What nicotine level were you using? Once your girlfriend feels better try lower nic and at least 30% VG juices. (70pg/30vg from a good juice vendor). But ecigs do not give infections unless somebody with an infection used the ecig first and their germs were on it.

    One other thing - when you say she vaped it for hours - hopefully not solid. It's not a toy. You can't use it like a pacifier and expect to not suffer any consequences of irritation or effect of nicotine overuse like headache, dizziness, fuzzy-headed, rapid or irregular heartbeat, etc.
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