Isn't that the basis of the thread topic?
Or were you
really just railing against crappy China customer service?
No that the real deal it just the wrong words see I happen to be one of those folk that get really bad sore throat from nickel and all that and I don't know If you seen the part in my post where I take about that I was disabled 20 years ago when a tree feel on my car with me in it anyhow I want keep this short so any way I have spells where I barely can get out bed some days I have laid up for almost 2 months I am mod builder been doing for about a year. Well as of late I have doing tons of dna 40s in a custom painted DNA 40 Box mods like the one I shown in post for the setting I used for using Ti wire on the DNA 40. I was getting really backlogged and had 4 of these mods to do for customers. I had my tv in bedroom and a touch screen for entertainment I had not been in the forum in a while I watched lot youtube and netflix. So Seen that Ti was getting too sound like a big deal so I did a bit review watching and thought man that sounded like the bees knees. anyway I ordered a SMY TC 60, a Ipv4 and the Joyetech evic TC the yellow job with racing stripes and was using those for my Ti vaping like I only bought those because I need something to do and at least I had some new toys to give something to do.
Ok well I got better a feel better a few weeks back to built out the 4 mods and the last one I was drilling the top 510 with the drill they sell at fat daddy vapes. Well its a drill and tap all in one type a deal and normally drill, then take the bit out and put it in T handle to tap it. The drill got away on me and it caught the tap part and spun the and that was it the paint got scratched So I built it out and kept it for myself as I always keep the boo boos for me and the wife. I love the damn thing. I had done about 20 of those box I would guess I was going to build a pair for wife and me anyway I was fooling around the I just stuck the tank for the yellow rally stripe Joyetech deal On the DNA 40 mod it was the only real DNA 40 so I just wanted to see if it could be done it worked perfect as the Joyetech TI coils are .4 ohm and that is a sweet spot for the dna 40 on TI wire. I had so I get it set up rebuildable, it was my first tank, the Kayfun lite with a new version 2 base with adjustable airflow. It was the best damn mouth to lung hitter I had to date. It was my old first kayfun that got me to kick the stinkies and used to use that on m provari when I first started. So I start messing with a few others and a few more. I had and found that I could get about everything running Ti drippers, tanks, everything on that dna 40 work like a dream. Anyway to top it all off all three of them mods I bought within a week or so and my wife's t50 cloupor died and one mod that I had mailed back to focalecig showed up return to sender they never picked it up at the post office. I was having fit, most were only few months old too a few days old. I spent the next few weeks sending all that crap back. and fighting with half of them over getting them return from death bed at least it felt like it was going to be my death bed so I supposed I was a bit cantankerous and get more so with all them jerking me around One had the nerve to try and count the month and half toward my warranty time.
Focalecig said lost or it never got there! When it was sitting at there was sitting at there postoffice for 4 months she tell me ship it the cheapest way with tracking so I do just to find only the post office could track it and only till it left our shores later I asked how much to really track from door to door it was 42 bucks . I had some other take dump a few month before that too all stuff from like fasttech, focalecig, angelcigs, 3fvape that why I was over last 6 months I had about everything but our dna 40's die most were as few month old So there is why I am sour toward the chinese retailers .
Ok that that part now I just want to clear up that rant it was justified I left out all the details of the problem I had with warranties it just to much off topic so anyway after I tested our mods for on this TI wire and I mean it just blew the nickel NI200 builds away. So I got in touch a bunch my customers and friend and told them about I even had a few classes where 4 of 5 my buddies and customer came over and I show them they all had kayfuns that came with the kit from me for free. I just bought a bunch bases tanks bell caps and chimneys can't complain about Fasttech when it comes to kayfun parts. but I not even going to start with problem with the mods from them!
While this was going on so the kayfun mass group build classes went so good went great. I have a bunch a orders now but since I am back on my feet again god only know how long and I end right back there in a week a month, 3 to 4 months I been going for a kind series of shots in my back that seems to be working now.
So back to the test of a total of 18 happy customers so I would say that pretty good as far me being able to say the normal kayfuns and the DNA 40 work 100% perfect about 15 Venturi drippers coming in that are all sold too. My new package includes both in new kit since I can get dna 40 now for about 26 each but the constant is the CNC machined custom painted G+ boxes 50$ a piece, but that been my hook. Nobody else here in the Nashville area has anything close. if my health would hold out for about 3 months it will be a good run.
So now I have converted my first DNA 30 hana clone to the dna 25, works great, but now that is not cost effective for me since my only source is evolv dna 25 is 35$ each but I have few folks that have hanas canas they want to have upgraded to temp control since there just single 18650 boxes. I got a few request overhaul the boxes and do the dna 25 and from my test results they work every bit as good as good. I would like to find out how to off load the firmware and see if it would to be modified. I have hacked all kinds of smart phones there firmware also has the whole OS. The firmware for the dna must be small compared to a smartphone the you have 2 uploads the radio and the OS but since the chip has no socket I not sure if there is any access to the firmware once the chip is installed to the board, smartphones that I hacked all could be hacked via the usb the other is the capacity of the chip that could be why they never did offer it. Now that would cool if I hack the firmware but from what I see I don't think it be programmed on the board
So that was my result on the DNA 40 and using TI wire is 100 percent compatible the coil is best from .36 to .45 after .50 it don't seem to want stay in TC mode it will fire all the way down to .08 but vapor production is very poor. Now I am not sure why but using the Kanger subtank and doing a rebuild on the old style horizontal coil 3mm Dia.28ga TI, then slide a 2.4 mm rod thru the hole to keep the coil in place works fine. I could get great vapor all the way to .77 ohms on a Kanger Subtank. The squape was .6ohm I am not sure why the max ohms varies from atty to atty but the zone from .36 to .45 seems to be best and again from my testing it best at .45 it seems more efficient at higher ohms on original 6ml version subtank it had very good flavor at .77 ohms being that the TI is not set in the firmware I find it's still very easy to work with.
Oh I almost forgot the Venturi by Ivogo also seems best at .45 to.40 as it dual coil it seems to like more watts and vapor remain cool and flavorful it gives the same great flavor and a mouth to lung hit just it has lots of airflow and a very small chamber with dual coils also the unique thing about the atty is when you put the chamber cover on it it get it air from the from between the fins near the drip tip. The cool part is has 3 different chamber covers smooth cone called the brake,finned cone shape called the classic and cylinder shape with fins called stratis
Oh and there is one more for you lung hitters that works great is the Orchid Kayfun clone. I call it the orkayed,it uses the orchid V4 and or V5 but not V6 as a base for you dual coil lovers and lots a air flow. Because it has much air flow it take a good bit watts without TC kicking it makes big moist clouds that I have set about the same as the Venturi.
all builds 28 ga 2 mm about 12 wraps for dual coils and 6 to 7 warps in the Kayfun its like 6.5 wraps 28, legs are opposing not same side so 6.5 better than 5.5
Sorry it too a bit to long for me to respond but my back started to give some pain so I had to lay down till it passed .
I will respond to everyone asap
Sorry about the errors and getting off topic. Now I got it going the right way forget the scam thing it's just a bit on the swanky side. I like to say a lot more but being called a bigot once in a day for giving my opinion about the products I have received as of late. That is something I really don't want to even have a opinion about this is no place for it
Please disregard the use of the word scam I apologize that not the right word for it. I don't know what the word would be for any country dump tons of low quality good on a market I just thing you can't judge the quality unless you judge value and you judge value by warranty and customer support.shipping time support response time. I think you have to make formula. I just like to see the return rate how long these item last how is the customer support how long a product is warranted how fast that warranty is handled you do the plus and minus then that retailer would have a rating. that why it would be fair and I would not say you make a law about it just that any retailer that was unrated youm just don't buy from here at home and abroad rules would be same same that way all folks everywhere would stand a chance since we have so much international trade the world need a standard system. In my opinion that would far trade