10K? Seems low. If that's all it costs, funding would not be a problem.
Titanium wires
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Dr Farsalinos are currently doing a series of studies related to temperature. He has said that he would want to do one on metals used in coils and of course one on flavours but it's all matter if funding.
Personally, I wouldn't use pure titanium on any mod that doesn't do temperature limiting of the coil. Better to use ESG's "magic" alloy for that. Resistance won't be as low and it's much more resistant to oxidation at higher temperatures.
Tnx Tony.
I know Dr. Farsalinos does - and has done - many good things for vaping. And he's very ambitious to do a lot more research. He already deserves a statue in my view!
But my point is that throughout this thread (and many others) all sorts of claims and statements are made and repeated over and over again. About which wire is better for our health, things to do and not to do etc. But I've never been able to find any thorough research confirming these statements. Not even a little but this is probably my fault.
Again, I'm sure this research is available somewhere. I just like to know where and read it. The subject is more than important enough I think.
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When it comes to catching on fire, wire is not the same as machining swarf. Heck, steel will burn too. Go get some 0000 steel wool and see for yourself.
As for oxides, they're not a problem if they form a passivation layer on the surface that stays put. Every coil material used in vaping forms an oxide layer. With Kanthal, it's predominantly aluminum oxide. With nichrome it's predominantly chromium. Read up on those and decide for yourself if they're less hazardous than titanium oxide. The real question is, do they get into the vapor and if so, in what amounts and particle sizes. I've not found any actual research on this. I'll say this: The oxide layer on titanium appears to be quite stable provided the wire isn't overheated to temperatures several times higher than you should get on a temperature-limited mod.
As for oxides, they're not a problem if they form a passivation layer on the surface that stays put. Every coil material used in vaping forms an oxide layer. With Kanthal, it's predominantly aluminum oxide. With nichrome it's predominantly chromium. Read up on those and decide for yourself if they're less hazardous than titanium oxide. The real question is, do they get into the vapor and if so, in what amounts and particle sizes. I've not found any actual research on this. I'll say this: The oxide layer on titanium appears to be quite stable provided the wire isn't overheated to temperatures several times higher than you should get on a temperature-limited mod.
hello friends!
I have a question... I have Ti Grado 1 0,32 and kanthal A1. if I use mods without TC (GG4S for example), I should not use Titanium Gr 1 not? Because I have seen that when cotton has not liquid, creates oxide on titanium, and the kanthal not happen if it gets red hot. Then ...
Titanium is best to use only TC and kanthal in mechanical mods without TC?
Thanks friends!
We have never worried much about our health smoking as we are doing now, that's fine !! =)
I have a question... I have Ti Grado 1 0,32 and kanthal A1. if I use mods without TC (GG4S for example), I should not use Titanium Gr 1 not? Because I have seen that when cotton has not liquid, creates oxide on titanium, and the kanthal not happen if it gets red hot. Then ...
Titanium is best to use only TC and kanthal in mechanical mods without TC?
Thanks friends!
We have never worried much about our health smoking as we are doing now, that's fine !! =)
I'm sure Tilemahos and Penélope 4 can tell you.hello friends!
I have a question... I have Ti Grado 1 0,32 and kanthal A1. if I use mods without TC (GG4S for example), I should not use Titanium Gr 1 not? Because I have seen that when cotton has not liquid, creates oxide on titanium, and the kanthal not happen if it gets red hot. Then ...
Titanium is best to use only TC and kanthal in mechanical mods without TC?
Thanks friends!
We have never worried much about our health smoking as we are doing now, that's fine !! =)
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Tony
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Excuse me, I don´t understand you. Do mean you that I can use Gr1 Titanium to Pe4 and Tile v2 on mods without TC without problems?
Thank you!
Oh man...
Rossum already said that grade 1 should not be used without TC control. Imeo said the same thing I believe.
So:
ESG = normal mod's
Gr1 = TC mods
Since I don't know the mods you refer, you should see if they have tc or not.
Regards
Tony
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Rossum already said that grade 1 should not be used without TC control. Imeo said the same thing I believe.
So:
ESG = normal mod's
Gr1 = TC mods
Since I don't know the mods you refer, you should see if they have tc or not.
Regards
Tony
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This is ESG:
http://www.esmokeguru.com/en/esg-titanium-wire-10m-in-spool-0.32mm-28g-de-en.html
It has half the resistance of kanthal. The metal is rather shiny compared to grade 1 titanium which is rather dull.
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Tony
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Thank you my friend. You´re very friendly. These titanium when heated and no ELiquid, ¿oxide layer the same color as does the gr1 made?
No. The ESG will become darker but I couldn't detect any oxide layer. That's why it's better for normal mods than grade 1.
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Tony
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Tony
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