Titanium wires

[FogNL]

How about this article- Titanium wires for vaping

Thank you Exceller, I know that article. Stealth vape is an excellent company. This article contains a number of interesting observations, quotes and opinions/views, including from Dr. Farsalinos. And they correctly state it's just that. They do not claim to have all the wisdom, don't drop unproven/unsupported statements etc. Very good (many others could learn from this).

The information is mainly about Ti oxidation and Ti Dioxide, the later is used in some liquids but both are closely related to the use of Ti wires for coils.

While this is also not a conclusive article or research by any means, it's a must read nonetheless imo.

 

[imeothanasis]

guys, about wires. You already know that titanium is the only biocompatible material, suitable to vaping-mods. Its healthy because of all the researches they are done the past years. And its suitable for mods-atomizers because it has big resistance. The rest of wires are not exactly what we want to vape.

About temperature. Ti 1 resist as the rest of the wires when we keep temp in VAPING levels. it resist on temp when we dont dry burn it.

There is no wire that can resist in "hot red" temperatures, thats why I am screaming for years to stop doing this. But I still see videos with people burning wires.

 

[BTHUNDER]

guys, about wires. You already know that titanium is the only biocompatible material, suitable to vaping-mods. Its healthy because of all the researches they are done the past years. And its suitable for mods-atomizers because it has big resistance. The rest of wires are not exactly what we want to vape.

About temperature. Ti 1 resist as the rest of the wires when we keep temp in VAPING levels. it resist on temp when we dont dry burn it.

There is no wire that can resist in "hot red" temperatures, thats why I am screaming for years to stop doing this. But I still see videos with people burning wires.

uuuups ... THANK YOU for educating IMEO ... funny but recently I have been doing only regular coils after your gentle wink !!!

 

[hobbes4]

Here's a quick build using some pure nickel non resistance wire with Titanium .32mm

Wire Welder 2 Pure Nickel to Titanium Quick Build - YouTube

I thought we couldn't use wire welder with titanium? Is that the ESG titanium wire or something else?

 

[AdamAnd]

I thought we couldn't use wire welder with titanium? Is that the ESG titanium wire or something else?

Yes it is the ESG titanium sorry for the confusion. If I can get my hands on some Ti1 wire I will give it a try.

 

[hobbes4]

Yes it is the ESG titanium sorry for the confusion. If I can get my hands on some Ti1 wire I will give it a try.

Thanks for confirming. I have a Joyner V2 wire welder on the way to me and was hoping I could try the ESG wire for non-TC builds.

 

[AdamAnd]

Thanks for confirming. I have a Joyner V2 wire welder on the way to me and was hoping I could try the ESG wire for non-TC builds.

Let me know how it go's Thanks Adam

 

[AdamAnd]

As I am still seeking Ti 1 wire to try in just a regular build without temp control would anyone know where to obtain any at this time. I found one place but you had to order very large quantities Thanks Adam

 

[soulseek]

As I am still seeking Ti 1 wire to try in just a regular build without temp control would anyone know where to obtain any at this time. I found one place but you had to order very large quantities Thanks Adam

The Spanish gg store

 

[AdamAnd]

Thank You I will check it out and get me some To be honest I am getting killed by customs every time I order anything at least 40 - 50 $ in custom fees adds up over time.

 

[soulseek]

You might find a seller closer to you in the Titanium thread in the Temperature control forum.

 

[NotableVirtues]

I think Envy is a US supplier, Spider Silk which is surgical grade 1 titanium. Got mine on ebay. Also ordered from esg in Germany, not sure if it is grade 1. Amazon has some, but I found that the options are more for industrial applications - no really sure if this make a difference.

 

[SotosB]

As I am still seeking Ti 1 wire to try in just a regular build without temp control would anyone know where to obtain any at this time. I found one place but you had to order very large quantities Thanks Adam

Titanium Wire - Zivipf Onlineshop

 

[AdamAnd]

Titanium Wire - Zivipf Onlineshop

Great I will check it out

 

[Ariel_MX]

Do you remember how many times and for how long Imeo told us to not let the coils to get red hot / glow and that the dry burning was not a good practice?

I think he was the first one in worrying about that and about the oxidation of ss mesh for the Genesis atomizers.

Finally the vaping community is showing more concern about that:

The end of microcoils? | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[imeothanasis]

lol, that has fun Ariel. And its not the first time that this is happening. Do you remember when I was saying that plated surfaces will get ruined soon and contact will be bad? Or when I was saying that plated contacts reduce electricity? Or when I was screaming about bio-compatibility of titanium wires and the danger of using other wires especially nickel? Or about side venting holes etc? I made a thread about myths and truth that some people want to hide for their own reasons. Its here for 2 years now:

Time for some real knowledge | E-Cigarette Forum

And people still use other wires. And reviewers still burn wires. And "manufacturers" still make nickel alloys for their mods lol

Also, about wires in general and dry burn of metals. Esmokeguru had always fun of me when he was seeing me writing all the time on forums: "dont burn the wires". Now listen Dr Farsalinos speaking:

00:00 Welcome
02:03 Formaldehyde Study
17:48 Temperature Study
22:28 Sweeteners
26:00 Toxic Aldehydes
28:23 Ethics
28:52 Flavouring
33:37 Formaldehyde prevalence
36:11 Negative studies in the media
40:29 Plastic tanks and bottles
43:22 Titanium wire & Overheating coils
49:35 Organic e-liquids
51:34 Nickel wire
54:17 Vitamins in e-liquid
56:15 Safety of PG & Additives
59:11 Cigalikes
01:02:10 Politics
01:04:31 Diacetyl
01:09:27 EU Reclassification of Nicotine

 

[AdamAnd]

I really like all the information this great for everyone The question that many asked was how not to get hot spots. I have not heated or torched a coil in a long time but cleaning the wire whatever type I think will help a lot. Just think how dirty the wire we use is. Just a thought. And who wants a dirty wire lol

 

[imeothanasis]

hot spots? Who has hot spots Adam and for what reason?

 

[soulseek]

You only get hot spots if you make contact coils.

The problem as I see it that the people promoting and providing e-cigarettes to people are not aware of the fact that they should not be torching wires or that titanium is the safest option. Reviewers don't these things, and people selling them don't know these things. I was at a vape shop yesterday in London, one of the sellers there didn't even know that you could vape with Titanium and he was a regular at vape-jams and was using a temperature controlled mod.

 

[Sad Society]

Yep, soulseek. The guy at my local vape shop said that vaping with Titanium wire 'seems kinda sketchy.'

I think he only said this because he doesn't have info about it. This shop also rebuilds coils for customers who can't (or don't know how to) do it themselves. And they were burning other people's gunked up coils red hot with no proper ventilation and with the doors closed. It smelled so bad I had to get out of there.

I only go in there every few months....if that. And the same guy remembered me. I asked him how he remembered me and he said it's because I use a GG and he doesn't know very many people who own a GG.